The Creation of Amerika the Fearful

[msk1986911]

Excellent post; much like listening to Al Franken spar with Rush Limbaugh. The more reasoned argument is typically put forward by the left...more thought and logic, less redneck knee-jerk.

[schleg79]

"Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot!!
- Al Franken, purveyor of "reasoned argument"

[Rodeo]

"Muslims and Democrats are very proficient at disinformation. They both have a bad habit of lying and they are currently working for the same cause..."

- Nul, purveyor of pure, unadulterated sheet

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by fastpat
Last, it's clear that Americans need a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting the basing of US government forces of any kind outside US borders. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this criminal government's activities.

You are a menace to society. You would have us vulnerable. You would have us announce our weakness to the world and have us exploited. Your vision of world fascism would be one major leap forward. Maybe you are the tool of God, arranging for Armaggedon is your task...or maybe you are just a communist useful idiot that is teetering between senility and psychosis.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by fastpat
Holding them is unlawful. By holding anyone in prison without charges or trial, the federal government is in breach of its' responsibilities under the Constitution.

The federal government must obey the Constitution at all times, no matter where it physically is located. The assertion by the Bush'ists that the full Constitution does not apply in Guantanamo, Cuba is a fiction.

Fortunately, Guantanamo and other parts of the US government Gulag will be coming under the knife of military cutbacks. In that regard the Bush'ists are crapping all over themselves in pursuit of world domination.

Last, it's clear that Americans need a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting the basing of US government forces of any kind outside US borders. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this criminal government's activities.

Nothing in the constitution that would prohibit what we are doing at GITMO...But, you get a B+ for creativity.

[speeder]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You are a menace to society. You would have us vulnerable. You would have us announce our weakness to the world and have us exploited. Your vision of world fascism would be one major leap forward. Maybe you are the tool of God, arranging for Armaggedon is your task...or maybe you are just a communist useful idiot that is teetering between senility and psychosis.

The problem in actuality is that invading and occupying Iraq has "exposed our weakness to the world", our weakness is that there are things that the military does very well and other things that it is utterly unsuited for. Or our "weakness to the world" is that we have a system where someone as odious and unpopular as Dick Cheney can basically take over foreign policy for 6+ years. That, my friend, is a weakness.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by schleg79
"Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot!!
- Al Franken, purveyor of "reasoned argument"

A little window into how media is disseminated to the world...Thank you for your contribution, but Franken is simply a big fat idiot resorting to meaningless name calling. Franken is a leftist, a liar and a propagandist. He is a classic liberal, a Democrat, a socialist in disguise.

I suggest you listen to Rush Limbaugh for more than what the media covers of him, or what Al Franken says. Listen to Rush for yourself...rushlimbaugh.com.

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
***Franken is simply a big fat idiot resorting to meaningless name calling***

[Mulhollanddose]

[stuartj]

You are a sad caricature , Mul. Tho you reveal the naked face of the thinking that has permeated elements of political thinking in the US. You do us a service in that regard.

[Mulhollanddose]

You, Stewie, are either a person of very low character, unable to discern high character, or you are evil...One or the other, maybe a mixture of the two.

[stuartj]

You are a person of high character, are you? More faith based thinking, Mul. Id be concerned if you said differently.

You have revealed yourself in this thread to be a hollow man, unable to to discern fact from fiction, unable to critically evaluate. You just regurgiatate Freeper dogma.

Your only redeeming quality is that you remind us that there are those out there that think like you, and that they are entitled to vote.

You a sad, scared, gormless wanker indeed.

Stuart

[Rodeo]

Every attempt to reason with Nul ends badly

[Mulhollanddose]

You remind me of a homeless person yelling at thin air.

[Aurel]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You remind me of a homeless person yelling at thin air.

And you, Mul, would be the thin air. That pretty much sums up the consistance of your thoughts

Aurel

[fastpat]

Originally posted by fintstone
Nothing in the constitution that would prohibit what we are doing at GITMO...But, you get a B+ for creativity.

Yes, the Constitution prohibits the federal governments actions in Guantanamo, Cuba; and "rendition" of prisoners as well.

Anything not expressly authorized by the Constitution to the federal government is prohibited to the federal government.

That you think otherwise demonstrates, yet again, how un-American you are.

To the core, I'd expect.

[pwd72s]

Why don't we just kill them all and take the oil?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You are a menace to society.

Yeah, I'm menacing society with freedom. I'm sure that frightens you.

You would have us vulnerable.

To whom? To what? Be specific.

You would have us announce our weakness to the world and have us exploited.

America isn't weak. The US government is the world's largest bully today. And, get this, most of the world knows that.

Your vision of world fascism would be one major leap forward.

Trying to tar me with your political philosophy again, eh. Didn't work all the other times you've tried it, and, get this again, it's not working this time either.

Maybe you are the tool of God, arranging for Armaggedon is your task...or maybe you are just a communist useful idiot that is teetering between senility and psychosis.

Maybe, you're a know nothing that's talking out of his arse because his mouth knows better?

Naw, both are on par.

[stuartj]

I am listening right now to an interview with the CO of Gunatanaomo Bay. He confims David Hicks sits in a concrete cell 22 hours a day. He has been held for more than 4 years. He has not been tried, and there is no immedaiate prospect of his trial in military tribunal or other. The Col in charge has called Hicks un-cooperative, and confirms he has been denied a change of clothes for three weeks.

Mjr Michael Mori, USMC, Hick's lawyer, says Hicks uncoperatiion comes from the fact that he speaks English and consequenltly calls the guards on the dubiuos games they play with inmates.

4 years. Locked up 22 hours a day. Shackled. Beaten. Tortured. No charges. No trial. No propect of either.

Is this what America now stands for in the world?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by stuartj
I am listening right now to an interview with the CO of Gunatanaomo Bay. He confims David Hicks sits in a concrete cell 22 hours a day. He has been held for more than 4 years. He has not been tried, and there is no immedaiate prospect of his trial in military tribunal or other. The Col in charge has called Hicks un-cooperative, and confirms he has been denied a change of clothes for three weeks.

Mjr Michael Mori, USMC, Hick's lawyer, says Hicks uncoperatiion comes from the fact that he speaks English and consequenltly calls the guards on the dubiuos games they play with inmates.

4 years. Locked up 22 hours a day. Shackled. Beaten. Tortured. No charges. No trial. No propect of either.

Is this what America now stands for in the world?

It's what Mul wants and fintstone is working tirelessly to achieve; moreover they want this inside America itself.

More than it already is.