No, he was just ignored by a media that didn't want his message to see the light of day, and called an "uncle Tom" by those in the black community who have a victim culture to keep alive.

Uncle Tom? You're hilariously ignorant. Cosby's msg. has nothing to do with white America. His is a black-on-black issue.

Oh, and ignored by the media. Media like whom? Not 60 Minutes. Not the New York Times. Not the LA Times. Not the New Yorker.

I could go on, but you're getting the picture that you're wrong...again...

Fun, fun, fun... SmileWavy

That's a lot coming from a guy who melts around March. :p

I hope it is not that hard for you to understand. The media's agenda is not cloaked by the half-hearted covering of a story that does not fit their paradigm. They may cover stories that discredit themselves and their race-baiting associates, but it gets nary the attention or amplification of those that hold the same ideology as themselves (the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharlatons). This is true of the coverage of Bill Cosby. He does not fit their agenda, he gets covered, but not with the agenda driven passion that their comrades in ideology receive.

I have seen Bill Cosby more denegrated than hailed on the media that I have seen (not just Fox). Anywhere where he is discussed there is some black liberal there dismissing him or inferring somehow that he is a sell-out (uncle Tom) that is out of touch with the black community...If I am not mistaken they threw Oreo cookies at him--black on the outside and white on the inside, get it?...Maybe they didn't but it is obvious that is the way they must paint him because their livelihoods depend on the victimization of the black culture.

I don't understand what you're saying (because it doesn't make sense). There are three different sources of information about the blacks' intelligence on that page and they all show the same result. In the CNN article, the black students lived in the same area as the whites, went to the same school and had access to the same teachers and they still finished 300 SAT points behind the white students.

Professor Jensen credited the blacks 4 IQ points above where they test to control for any socioeconomic disparities. And the graphs comparing SAT scores for the races showed that even when they come from families with similar educational and financial backgrounds the blacks still test far worse. The assessment of college literacy also showed that the blacks tested much more poorly than their white counterparts.

I once watched a video of a bunch of blacks marching to confront a group of white supremacists and at the front of the march there were some liberal minded whites marching with them and when they arrived at where the white supremacists were supposed to be nobody was there and the blacks got very upset and started pummeling the whites that had been marching with them. I wish I could find that video again. That also reminds of Siegfried (Roy?) getting bitten by his pet tiger.

From one of you links:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/mlking.asp

"4. One of King's closest friends, Rev. Ralph Abernathy, wrote a book in 1989 in which he talked about King's obsession with white prostitutes. King would often use church donations to have drunken sex parties, where he would hire two to three white prostitutes, occasionally beating them brutally. This has also been reported by the FBI agents who monitored King. King was married with four children."

I admit it I am a RACIST...I am a White Middle aged male, and I discriminate against people of colour...

But I am nothing in comparison to the HYPOCRITS on this Board, all pretending that your so enlightened...lilly white, and innocent as the pure driven snow...

The hell, you say. :eek:
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:D

If U see 2 young Black guys walkin down the street what is the first thing U think of....are they gona rob me?

Case closed...

If I recall, Jesse Jackson said the same thing.

U mean Jesse James Jackson....

I am talking about the shakedown artist, the poverty pimp, the huckster, the race baiter...You know, the guy who got the pigs blood and applied it to a sweater and said it was MLK Jr's blood...The guy who still rides on the casket of MLK...The leftist, the Democrat whore, the class-warfarist, the womanizing adulterer, that no-good POS that the media loves...The Democrat candidate, the liberal in holy man drag, the guy that spit in the food of white folks, the union advocate, the hate merchant....Jesse Jackson, the black guy that talks like an idiot.

Jesse Jackson's statement about black-on-black crime: "I hate to admit it, but I have reached a stage in my life that if I am walking down a dark street late at night and I see that the person behind me is white, I subconsciously feel relieved."

Since most of you reading this are White and each of you have a different point of view, what would make some of you think all Black people are joined at the hip?
Black folks are way more conservative than you think. Watch for a Black middle class voter shift in the future.

Middle class Blacks have been mad about this for a LONG time. Imagine if you were defined by the stupidest segment of your race. How would you feel? One of the reasons middle class Blacks dont speak out about this because we dont want to be "outted". You know, called Uncle Tom, told you are acting White(whatever the hell that means),or even worse, you aint black enough!!!!! To be kicked out of your "Clique" is a prospect most people dont want to deal with. What would you do if you got ostracized by all your White friends, where would you go?

Most Black folks agree with Mr. Cosby but we are not ready to discuss this out in the open yet. This debate has been raging for a long time. This is just one of the first examples to be heard by non-Blacks

Regular Black folks dont get the same press time as Pooky, Ray-Ray and LaQuieta. You have to admit stupid/crazy people are more entertaining than regular people.

For those with a short memory, the Irish, Italian, Chinese, Pols and Jews all went thru this. Look at a newspaper from 1900 and read what was said about the poor or any of the ethnic groups mentioned. You would swear they were talking about todays Blacks. One of our problems is that we cant blend in with the majority race because of our skin tone. So even if you are above adverage or just adverage, you are lumped in with Pooky and Ray-Ray. If I could escape being defined by my stupid cousin, I would. No, that doesnt mean I dont want to be Black, it means I dont want be judged by anything but the content of "MY" character.

It will change because we are only 12 to 14% of the population and Hispanics will become the dominate voice on minority issues. We will have to leave the blame "Whitey"/everything is slaverys fault/Jesse Jacksons Al Sharptons of the world behind. Even to a Black person that line of thinking is getting old.

On the Dr. King subject, most if not all comments about him are true. It still doesnt negate what he helped to accomplish. All of us will be lucky if we are measured by the things we've achieved not by the dumb-a** things we did to get there.

The not so glamorous events in King's life do not negate what he did for the Civil Rights Movement, but what he did for said Movement does not negate the not so glamorous events. It's a two-way street.

The fact remains he is a liar, and a cheat, and shouldn't even have the Dr. prefix in front of his name (that isn't really his name anyway).

The fact also remains that he made great advances for black rights.

Neither one negates the other, and it is stupid to assume that they do.

Not around these parts. 2 young black guys walking down the street is something you see just about every 10 seconds of the day.....

If I thought that, I'd live in constant "fear."

Living and working among diversity is a beautiful thing.....one of the things I love about the city.........

Everyone reading this has lied about something,stolen from and or cheated someone. However small or insignificant. Fact is you still did it. Do you see yourself as a liar, cheat or thief?

Human nature is an odd thing when it comes glory/fame. Pick any famous person and if you do a little research you will find some" bones in their closet". I dont know why we heap praise on one person while others, that are just as qualified are regulated to mediocrity.

Elvis didnt start rock n roll
Marylin Monroe wasnt the only sexpot
Darwin didnt discover evolution(check out who Alfred Russel Wallace was)
The current Pope joined the Hitler youth
I could go on but I am sure you get my point.

That is soo true cool-chick! I live in east LA and work here in El Segundo and I see all kinds of crazieness here all the time. I agree, just keep a cool head and use your best judgement and common sense. Whoa! was that just a bullet that buzzed on by??

A couple of things - diversity is not at all beautiful (read about the physical characteristics of the different races in the encyclopedia if you need more information) and the Pope "joined" the Hitler youth because the law under the Nazis said that every boy in that age group had to join.

nine-one-4 your right on your Pope statement. At that time being a part of the German Anglo population meant that you particpated in all aspects of Hitlers great vision. And they believed that what they were doing was for the greatness of the Fatherland. Considering the way Germany was ravaged after WW1. We are using the benefit of hindsight to point out where all this nationlist/race pride took them.

The adverage German had no idea where Hitler was headed with all of this. All that being said, the Pope still joined.

People look at these things like.... man has split the atom and since I am one of those men, therefore I can split atoms...needless to say that is far from the truth.
We need that stupid/fearless/dangerous/uncoventional thinking/different than I am, gene to propel All of us foward. That same gene has improved the lives of everyone and destroyed the lives of many.
That enough from me.
Bryan

Well, your so called diversity has done more to divide these United States than bring us together. We were called a melting pot because people move her to be Americans!! .

You forgot the funniest of all. The Black Congressional Caucus.

Why don't the Whites get one?

When Black people pull themselves up they move away from the Ghetto to the suburbs just like Whitey....and they leave all the fools behind...

Why is that one man can pull himself up outa the Ghetto and another can't...it seems like all the helping hands in the world won't be able to help the one who can't pull himself up.

At some point the world has to recognize that some people are just plain STUPID and can never be helped. Once the world realizes that only the people who ASK for help, should be granted help, once that happens, we will be much better off.

The single biggest mistake that all liberals make is to ASSume that all the worlds downtrodden need our help. WRONG!!!!

Maybe I should type more slowly.

Maybe what you linked to true - black people score worse in IQ tests and SATs, even when adjusting for socio-economics. So what?

My first thought is ... let's investigate and try and close the gap. What is yours? Why?

http://www.dailycollage.com/collages...e-1024x768.jpg

http://www.superiorpics.com/pictures..._sd2032218.jpg

Yep, diversity is not at all beautiful - the physical characteristics of different races intermixing causes very hideous things.

:rolleyes:

Hey dd, it's all subjective isn't it? ;)

If they could just learn to speak English like Bill says, that would go a long way...

ianc

Yes, "the law" also said that if you did'nt fit the bill you had to leave the planet via the chimney.

Nice one 914.

Why try and close the gap, if there is one??? IQ has nothing to do with equal OPPORTUNTIY. Thats all the LAW should require.

As to actual OPPORTUNITY, well thats pretty much realted to whats called the old boys club. Always has been, always will be. All minorities need is more good old boys. To get them, all they need is patience, IF the LAW is equally applied. Thats ALL should be shooting for, nothing else.

Have you told your theory to any of your minority friends? How do they like it?

Black unjustified racism is acceptable.

White justified racism is unacceptable.

This is really what it boils down to in today's PC (read 'leftist') culture. It excuses real societal ills and makes finding solutions impossible.

The black culture's biggest problem is the black culture that promotes all the behaviors that keep them segregated and dependent. The Democrat party has made a business out of keeping them victims.

what does that mean? When is racism acceptable? When it is justified?

What liberals would call racism, I would call cultural behaviorism...For instance, cannibals and KKK members have been humiliated via behaviorism (what liberals would call "racism" if they needed to whore you for some reason or another) into not engaging in their unacceptable behavior.

I would imagine a majority of what liberals like to define "racism" (as it is a more effective tool to whore certain minorities) is nothing more than society pressuring conformity...This is a good thing.

My original point, to conclude, is that blacks are as racist (if not more so) than whites, yet they haven't good reason for that bigoted sentiment, and they are encouraged. Whites, on the other hand, have much justification for their prejudice but are demonized if they dare express it.

wow. you've written some amazingly profound stuff here, but this might take the cake.

and have you shared this belief with your black friends?

One of my best friends is black. He agrees, albeit he is from Belize and like many foreign born blacks he despises American blacks and their "slave" mentality.

Un PC?...You betcha...Am I a racist?...nope...I am a conservative ideologue and feel justified in feeling morally superior to socialists and Godless secularists of all shapes and sizes.

Yeh, my black friends admit to being racist. Its apparently ok for them to be racist, but not for whites.

I do not believe in either side. As long as the LAW is not racist, all else is acceptable. In other words, the old boys club is always ok, and that’s as it should be. Some people don't think the gob club is ok, cause they aren't one of them. That’s their tough luck, and it as it should be.

Why?? Because it promotes stability in society. It promotes values, important values. Don't like those values? Tough. That’s the way it should be.

The Left, it has NO values. The most successful, sound society in the history of the world would be destroyed, if we followed the values of the left.

The left is a fungus, a plague, a rot on society. To follow their ideals is to destroy freedom and the foundation of the USA.

I don't have any black friends - I had a few in my classes, some did poorly while I have one guy that I am still in contact with and if I could I would hire him in a minute. Great prgrammer. I'm working on getting him a job when he graduates next year, not cuz he is black but because he is smart and he works hard. Another black student is in his 30's from South Africa - worked in a Diamond mine there and is over here with his kids and wife working 2 jobs and going to school. He was one of the few to earn and get an A (whites and blacks included). The only black chick in my class also did well.

I have not seen a great distinction between whites and blacks in my classes - the two black students that bagged the mid-term actually pulled it together and passed the course. I failed several students. I really can't remember their race. I think one was either Italian or Hispanic...can't rememebr now. Guess it doesn't matter.

Hmmm...sounds like someone's pissed they missed out on their 28 acres and a mule. :rolleyes: