Yep, you are right as always. How in the world do you do it? You just seem to know everything. :rolleyes:

Where do you come up with implied threats? You must mean where you implied a threat against David1.

And by substantive issues, you mean the cut/paste comments from someone else?

Please Teach me O Great One.

No, this is your feeble attempt at intimidation.

There's zero chance of it working.

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When you enlisted, we didn't need you. Heck the military was already too big by a factor of at least four. But we took you in anyway, we fed you, we trained you, we housed you, and now we support you month to month. This is what a good society does Pat. That you now turn and bite our generous hand is what gets me.

You have done nothing for me, but you're welcome to keep up your, what, dream, or is it simply a daytime fantasy?

Never the less, you're going to silence me about the time pigs learn to fly and monkeys fly out of your butt.

If you guys want to argue with Pat, why not read up on libertarian views and critique them? Why make it personal? What ever happened to real honest debate and showing respect whether it was warranted or not.

Repeat after me, "If the right honorable gentleman would....." Now do this before you reply. Or perhaps we just can't get along. OK I'm taking my toys and going home.

Pat is not capable of rational discussion. Any view differing from his is met with condescending names and accusations of blood lust or Zionistic world domination plots. I don't need to feed the crazy.

I am VERY good friends with plenty of Libertarians and I certainly lean that way myself, in fact a friend of mine is a Libertarian radio host. He wrote several article for my old website and we agree on 95% of things. My inability to communicate with Pat has nothing to do with his ideas, it's his methods. He is like a 12 year old braggart kid that believed everything his opinionated dad told him.

I'm sorry that you feel intimidated, it was not my intention.

And no one is trying to silence you, just pointing out that your perfect "bear by himself" world cannot exist. Heck, even you needed the collective to support your ambitions.

I thought this looked odd. Here is what I found puzzling. YOU said this in an old thread. Took me a minute to find it.

Why are you complaining that someone may (or may not) be exercising their First Amendment rights?

Your strawman isn't working, I've not told you that you couldn't write or speak, only that your goal wasn't achievable.

There, now you know the difference.

Anyone supporting the invasion and conquest of another country for the reasons stated by the US government can hardly be described as anything else in this reality. How else would you describe such a person? Without lying. How would you describe a person that advocates waging war in which more than one hundred thousand people are killed based on a personal vendetta? Without lying?

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or Zionistic world domination plots. I don't need to feed the crazy.

Since I've never, not once, made such a statement, this is apparently you, let's see, illustrating by exaggeration? I have stated that the Israeli's want America to invade countries for them, supported fully recently by just this request by the Israeli prime minister in a speech before the US congress. If you doubt this, see this story in Ha'aretz an Israeli newspaper and online site.

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I am VERY good friends with plenty of Libertarians and I certainly lean that way myself,

There is only one way to be a libertarian, be one. There is no leaning towards. Yes, this is an absolute, it's can't be any other way.

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in fact a friend of mine is a Libertarian radio host. He wrote several article for my old website and we agree on 95% of things. My inability to communicate with Pat has nothing to do with his ideas, it's his methods. He is like a 12 year old braggart kid that believed everything his opinionated dad told him.

You'd better try harder, the only thing you're communicating here is that you don't want to defend your position(s).

You are making little or no sense. What is my goal that you say is not achievable?

Geez, this is becoming excruciating.

Go back and read the message exchange between you and I, and it will come to you, I hope.

1.) I post about intellectual bullies
2.) You say, yeah they resort to implied threats

I conclude from this that implied threats = intellectual bullies

3.) I point out that you claimed that you are allowed to make implied threats because of the First Amendment.

I conclude that FastPat = implied threats = intellectual bully

4.) You respond with some gibberish about not telling me I could not write or speak.

I am just feeding you back your own words and you are not liking the taste of them. Every bully I have ever known responds the same way. Their own "rules" never apply to themselves.

Seems this is the same point Lendaddy was trying to make.

Why should others bother debating and critiquing? The answer is obvious. Many are trying to illuminate that Pat is not the great thinker he presents himself to be. Pat's pastes, er.. posts ,have nothing to do with debating. They're all about Pat’s convincing himself he's of superior intellect. Ironically his posts do just the opposite. They show that he’ll buy into any drivel supplied by any miss-fit group. No analytical thinking need be applied.

Pat is kind of like a Sancho Panzo. The difference is Pat’s not as enlightened as Sancho. Sancho knew Don Quixote lived in fantasy world. Pat believes his Don Quixotes are sane.

I see.

My claim about being able, under the First Amendment, to verbalize implied threats does not mean that I make implied threats or even think that they are a good idea, it merely means that speech is protected as a right and that since that is true, I could verbalize them, subject to the owner's rules on this forum, since I'm not the owner, and I do respect property rights.

Are we finished with this digression now?

Oh, yes, your sentence above about bullies is not making any sense, since I've not bullied anyone, in fact that's quite impossible out here, I can't compel anyone to read what I write.

Yep, I am headed home for a long weekend. Happy Memorial Day to you. :D