What's your outlook for the future?

[RPKESQ]

Trekkor wrote:
Wars, earthquakes, pestilences, food shortages and a global preaching work would all be seen together in one generation to a level never seen before.

WWI, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, Gulf and many others.
This generation has seen huge earthquakes very often.
Spanish flu, cancer, AIDS...Bird flu looming.
In Africa stavation is well known.

OK, Trekkor logic and critical thinking obviously have no place in your world. But are you saying all of history is a made up too. All of the events or similar types of events have been going on for a very, very long time.

Wars have always been fought, no time period has that exception, recent time 20 & 21st century have no greater frequency than the last 6000 yrs.
Earthquakes have been recorded for thousands of years, no frequency of change.
Pestilence has been recorded for thousands of years, no frequency of change since the Black Death. This covers all types of diseases.
Food shortages, yada, yada, yada…
Starvation in Africa??? There is no time period in 10,000 years of recorded history that Africa did not have starvation issues!
And saving the best for last, Global Preaching, now there is a curse from hell! Religious preaching has existed since man first created religion. You of course, are on the “right path” and all the rest do not apply. Funny, all the rest say the same thing, except it’s them on the “right path” and it’s you who don’t apply. Same tune, different words. Your biblical quotes are childlike. You can’t even read Greek or Hebrew to see what was originally written. How do I know you can’t? Because you are quoting from the King James Version, not from any original text. Do you even know why King James commissioned a rewrite? No, that would require an open, questioning mind and some critical thinking. Quotes from the source, never prove anything. You need to find proof (repeatable, measurable) from outside the source to prove something. Dude, 20 years with this tripe has reduced your reasoning abilities to zero. I feel so sorry for you.

[trekkor]

Originally posted by nostatic
Well, luckily a "day" according to God can be thousands of years (per a reasonable interpretation on Genesis). So I agree totally with you...we are in "the last days."

Yes, we agree that God's days are totally differant than man's.

Matthew was written so man would know when the last days of man's system of things would be here.

Jesus taught his followers to pray for God's Kingdom to come.
It's a good thing...The Good News of God's Kingdom.

The solution to all the problems that MAN has created due to his trying to rule himself.

God's kingdom brings paradise while man's governments *always* brings death.


Armageddon is God's final war against the wicked, not a nuclear war or asteroid/comet catastrophe.


KT

[IROC]

Wow, man - you live in a whole different world. Now, of the 6 billion people or so on Earth, who gets to be part of the lucky 144k?

Mike

[trekkor]

Dude, 20 years with this tripe has reduced your reasoning abilities to zero. I feel so sorry for you.

You are mistaken.
You don't know me.
My quotes are not from the King James.
You have no hope ( unless you are holding out on us ).
Your debate consists of mockery and insult.
Your view of preaching is... "yours".

Say you don't believe in God if you like.
Be honest with me.

My choices were/are based on reason and logic.
Let's just say..." I am right". You'd like me to keep *that* to myself?
I'm not asking you to do anything harmful to yourself or others.
Am I hurting you? Am I helping you? Time will tell.

Who told you that mankind has the ability to produce successful rulership?
They lied...History has been written.

Of course the world has been in turmoil since history has been recorded. No arguement there.

Times are different now. Everything is increased.


Are you willing to listen? Or only defend?


KT

[trekkor]

Wow, man - you live in a whole different world. Now, of the 6 billion people or so on Earth, who gets to be part of the lucky 144k?

The number of people who will survive the "end" is not known by man.

_After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb...- revelation 7:9.


KT

[RPKESQ]

I cannot find any evidence "things" have increased. Where is yours? Stop making claims you cannot support. It is just completely disingenuous and only highlights your drivel.
None of your points or choices is based on logic or reason. You have no concept of either, so how are you able to used them effectively? I do "know" you. Your kind has been around like leaches on mankind for a long time. Dragging man down by promoting superstition and limiting knowledge And you all hide behind the claim that if you are held up to the light of rational questioning and made to answer with logic and reason, then you are insulted and abused. What about the insult and abuse religious fanatics have made mankind suffer for eons? Fairplay here is if you want to espouse nonsense then you have to accept reticule. No blind acceptance or PC from me, when if fact it's exactly people of "faith" that have caused most of man's problem. Enlightenment is in the rational thought process, not blindly believing in myth and superstition. You dismissed and dodged the answers to your own simple questions from previous posts, why, were you able to prove any of those answers wrong? Obscurantism, they name is religion! Your attempts to dodge any critical observations is so pitiful, it is kind of painful to watch. Publish the ISBN# of the bible you are using for your quotes. I bet it is the King James Version. Let's put this to the test. Or are you going to dodge this question too.

[nostatic]

probably New World translation. Watchtower. Explains a lot...

http://www.watchtower.org/bible/mt/chapter_024.htm

[nostatic]

http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/mind.html

[RPKESQ]

Trekkor wrote:
The number of people who will survive the "end" is not known by man.

_After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb...- revelation 7:9.

So since I can count the number of people on earth, that means we all get to "go"! So what are we concerned about! Or does that mean, god thinks we are incapable of counting to large numbers? Or does it mean that when written, the average person could barely count further than the number of fingers and toes he had, and these big numbers sounded so impressive! Or does it mean, that since we are capable of counting up to even up to the number of people who have ever lived and beyond, that it is just a bunch of supersitious nonsense.

[RPKESQ]

Also the commonly held belief that this the first (actually it would be the third or fourth generation, but why even try to be accurate?) generation is hardly proven. But correcting that urban myth, doesn't make for a very good fairy tale or emotional diatribe, now does it?

[trekkor]

drivel ...

None of your points or choices is based on logic or reason. You have no concept of either,...

like leaches...

Dragging man down ...

you all hide...

espouse nonsense ...

No blind acceptance or PC from me...

have caused most of man's problem.

pitiful, it is kind of painful to watch...


Isn't it interesting to see the type of communication skills and tact that people use in making a convincing argument


I've heard worse...


KT

[RPKESQ]

I call them as you spout them. But, I'm sure you have heard worst, after all you offend a lot of people. I see you have given up trying to play the logic and critical thinking game. This is the same response you can expect from all of these religious quacks. They can never back their statements and claims without using circular arguments. Put up or shut up.

[trekkor]

My question was simple. "What is your hope for the future"?

Attacking me may entertain you, but certainly does not solve any of the problems of this world.

Of course I can back 100% of my statements with historical accuracy.
Why would I make statements that I can't back up?


This topic is not about me and your perception of me.
I'm not that important, believe that if you believe nothing else.

As to logic, all I've heard is disagreements and name-calling.
That's not logic.

KT

[Victor]

I haven't seen you clearly communicate a concise picture of what YOUR "big hope for the future" is either?

What is it in 20 words or less please.

[nostatic]

So was I right? New World translation?

I like this watchtower better (and another annotated version)

[trekkor]

Originally posted by RPKESQ
I see you have given up trying to play the logic and critical thinking game.

It's not a game, sir.

This is reality, and it seems to me you have NO answer...

Most people are VERY concerned about the world situation.
MOST are nervous about what's coming next because they have no trust in what their leaders are telling them.

Apparently you must live in a very secure environment , otherwise you would have a little more empathy for humanity.

And...If being a man of faith automatically disqualifies me from posessing logic. Then I guess you stand with a VERY small group of the priveledged ones that do.

Is that what you mean?


KT

[trekkor]

Originally posted by Victor
I haven't seen you clearly communicate a concise picture of what YOUR "big hope for the future" is either?

What is it in 20 words or less please.

Mankind living by God's righteous guidelines survive's Armageddon. Man's government's are gone.
God's Kingdom rules forever. Problems solved permanently .

KT

[Victor]

Your'e scary.

[Victor]

Originally posted by trekkor
Mankind living by God's righteous guidelines survive's Armageddon. Man's government's are gone.
God's Kingdom rules forever. Problems solved permanently .

KT

What is the timeframe for this glorious vision? Can you nail it down to a decade please.

[trekkor]

Victör, what do you got ( or anybody for that matter )?

I'll even give you 30 words!


KT