Trekkor wrote:
Of course I can back 100% of my statements with historical accuracy.
Why would I make statements that I can't back up?




OK, let put that to the test. Publish where you have researched these “facts” of yours:

I'm telling you the truth.

This is the *only* time in history that they (features of "the sign”) are all happening at the same time to this degree.

The sign of the last days only fits one generation in all of man's history.

Wars, earthquakes, pestilences, food shortages and a global preaching work would all be seen together in one generation to a level never seen before.

This the (sic) *only* generation when man has had the ability to destroy life on the planet.

My quotes are not from the King James (Version).

Times are different now. Everything is increased.


Prove any one of these statements without using your inane circular arguments or quotes from the bible. Post the references to support these claims.



When Trekkor wrote:
My question was simple. "What is your hope for the future"?

I replied:
The future is very bright. One of the most stunning and far-reaching developments will be the discovery and isolation of the "god gene". This is the DNA sequence that makes people susceptible into becoming narrow-minded, non-thinking followers. Much like the propensity found in alcoholics and drug addicts, this DNA sequence will be treated and/or cell-engineered out of existence. Then a new age will dawn for mankind. No longer hiding behind imaginary gods and fearing retribution, or believing superstitions, or blindly following some religious/political demi-god, man will devote himself to far more productive labors.

So a bright, cheery future after all!

And as for this Trekkor statement:
Most people are VERY concerned about the world situation.
MOST are nervous about what's coming next because they have no trust in what their leaders are telling them.


The reality:
MOST people around the world have third grade education at best, have no understanding of science, no knowledge of history beyond a few years and are perfectly posed to believe this mumbo-jumbo. Have you ever wondered why religions loose membership as a population increases its education levels?

it took you a half an hour to come up with that...?

you can do better.


KT

No - you really are freaky man. Hat's off to you for blind faith though. I think you may have missed my next question:

Could you please nail down a timeframe for this glorious vision of yours. Nearest decade will suffice.

I don't know your name, so sir will have to do, sir.

With statements like that it is obvious that you are not open to any agreement.

Thinking people will do their own research. You can do it...;)

*Everyone* knows that more people have died as a result of the wars, earthquakes, food shortages and sickness in this time than any other.

Say what you will...that's truth.


KT

No, I saw it. You missed the answer pages ago.


KT

New World translation?

very good:cool:


KT

No I did'nt.

cool...

Trekkor, don't PM me these lame responses, post them for all to see. I repeat; prove the statements you have made without quoting your bible. You do have some basic idea what proof is, don't you? By the way, I have 8th graders that have better research skills than you have demonstrated.
Is this personal, no, not at all? I am just opposed to anybody making statements that they consider fact without having any proof. Call it myth, story, fiction, opinion, fantasy, lies, BS, anything but fact, and we would have nothing to talk about. But if you call it fact, then the burden of proof is on you. This is the way science works and it does very well that way. It’s call peer review, something no religion undergoes. Ever wonder why? If you want to play with the big boys, then comic book "facts" won't cut it.
If you are admitting to using and quoting the New World Version (only Jehovah Witness use that), any basic research will provide bucket loads of critical analysis illustrating the errors in translation. It was built on much of the same erroneous work use in the King James Version. The publishers refuse to name the translators used it it's creation, now that is good peer review!

What will become of the apostrophe in these end times?

evidently it will be misused about 40% of the time.

And oh though I walk through the valley of the shadow of the apostrophe, I fear not, as I know that Frank has walked there before. And it was good.

wherein it is written (on whatever it is that they write it on up there) that if anything bad ever happens to your eyes as the result of some sort of conflict with anyone named Nanook,
the only way you can get it fixed up is to go
Trudging across the tundra
Mile after mile
Trudging across the tundra
Right down to the parish of St. Alphonzo

lo'l

so that special weed i sent you, arrived then, yes?

Oop's :)


KT

I've answered many question's. Some several time's. ;)


Some do not like my answers for a variety of reasons. That's OK.

This thread, if you will remember, was putting the question to YOU.

There have not been ANY solutions to this world's problems put forth.
( another repeat statement )

I'm asking YOU. Where is your hope? Your serious hope and why do you believe it?

KT

Trekkor wrote:
There have not been ANY solutions to this world's problems put forth.
( another repeat statement )

Another lie. How many times must I repeat my posted solution.. Mine solves the cause of more human death and suffering that any other. Stop the BS, and submit proof of your statements as outlined twice before.

RPKESQ ( sir )

Your sci-fi "solution" does not address:

crime
sickness
racism
housing
basic needs
well being
world peace
death


Your "solution" is just a way for you to feel good about yourself while attacking me with another one of your jabs.

please stop that...


KT

Trekkor wrote in a PM to me:
who are you?
All your responses have been negative and insulting.
You take the stance that you are the smartest person around and everyone else is just a dummy. Why do you do that?

That statement about the majority of the population having a 3rd grade equivalent education... Who are you?

Re-read some of your posts and tell me why you think anyone would want to be around you...Just rude...Rude.



I'm not negative at all, I have faith in mankind, sooner or later he will throw off the shackels of myth and supersition called religion and a much brighter future will be his. But I do not allow false statements to stand. If you cannot pass a proper critique and peer review, than that is your problem, not mine. I am not the smartest person by any means, but I am smart enough to research topics and to actually question. I require colaboration and multiple sources before I sign on to something.

Now let's see about the statement I made that you think is rude:
That statement about the majority of the population having a 3rd grade equivalent education...

Well there is aprox. 6.5 billion people in the world and according to the UN the average amount of non-religious education for over 3.8 billion of the worlds population is less than 4 years. So why exactly is this a negative or rude or insulting statement?

Just because most people will roll over and not debate or just joke around about inaccurate statements and claims; I do not. If that is rude to you, so be it. I take the stand that I owe it to the world to make it a better place and help stamp out this curse of religion from the earth.

I think the thread has lost it's point.
The tone is negative and that was not my intention.

I see in the news every day the problems that real people are experiencing. I don't know anyone who feels comfortable with the current situation in the world.

The purpose of my opening posts was to share what is a comfort to me.
Engaging in endless debate about subjects that are not related to the topic can be done some other time.

Again, if anyone is satisfied with the state of the world, please tell me why.


KT

it never had a point


that's what you get when you approach something like this , with the methods of a door to door hoover sales man


many people do , there's this thing called "apathy"
it works


that's a blatant lie
the purpose was to sell your religion
to convert new souls
and to redeem your own through conversion (which is part of your religion)


another attempt to take it offline?
to much heat?


one doesn't have to be satisfied to be happy
look at the Dalai Lama
he's not in a satisfactory situation yet he is always smiling
it's called enlightenment , look it up.

Stijn , are you like this in person?

Apathy is like putting a sack over your head. It doesn't work.

Mentally giving up on the condition of the world is very common.
People are doing exactly as you suggest. Creating diversions, and going on with there lives.

They pretend like the problems don't bother them. Not a real good idea.


KT

Well as of right now, the vast majority of the people in this world claim to adhere to one religion or another. The overwhelming (more than 85% by most counts) of the people in the US claim to be religious.

If the world is in such bad shape right now, it appears that religion isn't doing anything to mitigate it.

Mike

you said you didn't know anyone who was comfortable
i replied , many people are confortable through apathy


don't twist my words, rebutted your stupid arguement with a fact
it does work for a high percentile of the civilised population... no matter what you say...

and for the record, no i am not totally apathic about the world
there is about 1% of me that truly cares about the friggin rainforrest, another 1% cries daily for the poor hungry kids in africa, and i think another 1% wants to see world peace...


the other 97% of me couldn't care less , as long as it doesn't bother me... and that's how most folks think... even most so called "religious folks"...

And what is the difference between ignorance and apathy?

I don't know and I don't care.

i'm actually pretty much convinced , that apathy is vital for emotional survival... people cannot function if they take every bit of misery in the world and start "Caring" about it...

those who donate to charity , simply do it to sooth their concience
sure , they will say they seriously care , but except for those that give to the point they have to cut back on food , clothes , and playstations... it's not really hard core now is it.... and trust me , very few donate till it hurts...


furthermore, it's no use anyway , you can give a man a fish, or you can teach him to fish... sure, but some folks are just not good at fishing, or they are in the wrong location...so you can try teaching them till hell freezes over, or you can keep giving fish tell hell freezes over... either way , you can do it till hell freezes over , and you still haven't fixed a thing.

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