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Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
It's good fiction. Just like the bible.
If you don't believe in the Bible, you can go to hell!

dd74 06-07-2006 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Apples and fat-asses, dd74...Moral equivalence is intellectually sluggish.

Michael Moore is a proven liar, Coulter is not.

Don't you mean "Adam's apples and fat asses?"

Right...

Saying you trust Coulter's confrontational and accusatorial style says much...or says nothing, really.

Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
[B]I enjoy rational debate and even honest differences of opinion. They are good for the country. I do not enjoy opportunistic bomb throwers of any stripe and consider same as destructive and contributing nothing to the well being of the society in which they live.

I still ask why her opinions are more valid than others with whom you may not agree. No rational answer is forthcoming.

**snipped because it was boring me**
I heard you the first time.

fintstone 06-07-2006 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Hold on! What makes them ignorant? Cashing in is one thing; "ignorant" is a whole 'nother situation.
I don't know "what makes them ignorant." I guess they were too self-absorbed to pay attention in school.

I listened to the interviews. Ignorant is putting it mildly. Unless, of course, they were acting then too.

Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Don't you mean "Adam's apples and fat asses?"

Right...

Saying you trust Coulter's confrontational and accusatorial style says much...or says nothing, really.

I am stuck between saying "touche" and "douche"...decisions decisions.

dd74 06-07-2006 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
If you don't believe in the Bible, you can go to hell!
Fairytales, little man. All fairytales.

Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Fairytales, little man. All fairytales.
As a liberal I am sure you are quite familiar with fairy tales.

fintstone 06-07-2006 11:15 PM

Moore and Coulter...No comparison. Moore has been proved to be a liar many times. Hard as liberals have tried...they have not once been able to prove Coulter has lied...except of course, if they take a joke/sarcastic remark out of context and try to imply it was otherwise.

dd74 06-07-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
As a liberal I am sure you are quite familiar with fairy tales.
Problem with that is I'm not a liberal, love...

Sweet dreams... SmileWavy

dd74 06-07-2006 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
...they have not once been able to prove Coulter has lied...
In fiction, there are no lies. It's just fiction. Hence Coulter...

Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Problem with that is I'm not a liberal, love...

Sweet dreams... SmileWavy

Walks like a fairy, talks like a fairy...well, you know the rest of the story.

:D

Moneyguy1 06-07-2006 11:19 PM

mul...even people who believe in the bible can go to hell if they do not follow the tenets therein as laid out in the beatitudes. Christ taught tolerance, charity, love, among other positives. He did not preach practicing humiliation, bomb throwing, belittling others and finding fault with practically everything.

Faith without good works is nothing. Remember the parable about the seed and how it might grow rapidly at first in poor soil and then die. Remember the story of theoutsider who stopped to aid the man who had been attacked and robbed. Christ urged us to be kind and understanding, to be forgiving (read His words as he hung on the cross).

Do you live up to what Christ tried to teach us? Do any of us measure up to that standard?

Do not be so sure of your future.........

Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
[B]mul...even people who believe in the bible can go to hell if they do not follow the tenets therein as laid out in the beatitudes.
I was just saying that if you do not believe in the Bible you can go to hell.

fintstone 06-07-2006 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
mul...even people who believe in the bible can go to hell if they do not follow the tenets therein as laid out in the beatitudes. Christ taught tolerance, charity, love, among other positives. He did not preach practicing humiliation, bomb throwing, belittling others and finding fault with practically everything.

Faith without good works is nothing. Remember the parable about the seed and how it might grow rapidly at first in poor soil and then die. Remember the story of theoutsider who stopped to aid the man who had been attacked and robbed. Christ urged us to be kind and understanding, to be forgiving (read His words as he hung on the cross).

Do you live up to what Christ tried to teach us? Do any of us measure up to that standard?

Do not be so sure of your future.........

I guess that depends on your church. The New Testament/ John 3-16 tells me otherwise.

Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Do you live up to what Christ tried to teach us? Do any of us measure up to that standard?

Do not be so sure of your future.........
None is righteous, no not one...It is not by works that we are saved, but by Grace and Grace alone. Unmerited favor that comes from faith and obedience. That obedience is near impossible but we strive and ask God to give us the strength to be better men. I am constantly in this posture.

God is not a liar and will not be mocked. I am saved because I have faith, of this I have no doubt. For my earthly sin I will pay an earthly price, but through faith my soul will not enter darkness. I will not enter that void that is without joy and God for all eternity...This is promised.

Moneyguy1 06-07-2006 11:32 PM

fint

Any cleric worth his salt (other than fundamentalist bible thumpers) will advise about taking any verse of the bible out of context.

"By this we know love, because He laid down his life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethern"

What does this verse actually mean and how does it tie in with salvation?

Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:36 PM

Galatians 5:2-6

"Listen! I, Paul, tell you this: If you are counting on circumcision [your good works or law keeping] to make you right with God, then Christ cannot help you. I'll say it again. If you are trying to find favor with God by being circumcised, you must obey all the regulations in the whole law of Moses [impossible is the point]. For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God's grace.

But we who live in the Spirit eagerly wait to receive everything promised to us who are right with God through faith. For we place our faith in Christ Jesus, it makes no difference to God whether we are circumcised [perfect under the law] or not circumcised. What is important is faith expressing itself in love."


Brackets mine.

Mulhollanddose 06-07-2006 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Any cleric worth his salt (other than fundamentalist bible thumpers) will advise about taking any verse of the bible out of context.
Actually, as usual, you have it exactly backwards. It is the fundamentalist Bible thumpers who will advise against taking a verse out of context, the liberal theologians misquote and take out of context routinely.

fintstone 06-07-2006 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
fint

Any cleric worth his salt (other than fundamentalist bible thumpers) will advise about taking any verse of the bible out of context.

"By this we know love, because He laid down his life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethern"

What does this verse actually mean and how does it tie in with salvation?

This is the verse I cited

John 3:16 (King James Version)

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

Seems pretty clear to me that this passage indicates the road to salvation is not through good works but through belief in Christ as the savior of man and son of God..

HardDrive 06-07-2006 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
It is not a misquote. It makes more sense in context....but it is what she wrote....and she seems to be correct IMHO as we previously posted similar here during the 9/11 commission hearings when these ignorant women made a spectacle of themselves.
I just can't comprehend comments like this.

What does it matter what these women did? They lost their spouses in the worst terrorist attack in American history. This fact takes away their right to speak their minds?

And more to the point, at what point did it become admirable to berate those who have suffered such a terrible loss to their familys?

There is simply no moral compass left in this country.

People have lost their f*cking minds.


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