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Mulhollanddose 06-11-2006 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Correct. Which is their right.
That puts their blood on your hands.

dd74 06-11-2006 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
That puts their blood on your hands.
Your statement is so obtuse, it doesn't even merit consideration.

Mulhollanddose 06-11-2006 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Your statement is so obtuse, it doesn't even merit consideration.
May the silence in the night remind you of dead babies whose cries and laughs have been extinguished for convenience and profit...Their blood is on your hands.

trekkor 06-11-2006 09:51 PM

Do a little research on the "procedures" used...Graphic.

I agree it's something a 7 year old should NOT have to hear.
I'm closing in on 40 and it makes me sick.

"We have the right to shred babies"...Use those words instead and see if you can look at yourself in the mirror?


KT

Eldorado 06-11-2006 09:55 PM

would you rather have young mothers give birth to the child and then dump them in a park somewhere to die? leave them on a doorstep? place them within the already overcrowded foster parents program? kill them by their own means? or keep them and grow up resenting them? (the "yous" in this paragraph are strictly subjective and not talking to anyone specific).

I believe the correct answer for your son is something along the lines of:

'an abortion is when a mommy decides to not follow through with the pregnancy for one reason or another. There are sometimes good reasons, and sometimes there are not... just like with every other decision in this world... I know it's probably a hard idea for you to understand now, but some day you will... and i'll always be here to answer any questions you have about it.'

that's what i would have said.. but what do i know, i'm only 23. I wouldn't have used phrases like "the doctor kills the baby" because kids at that age (the age of your son) already think to extremes with very little reasoning... you probably gave him an image of a big mean man who [insert evil nightmare about methods to killing babies here].

I agree.. a couple should be responsible, and sometimes irresponsible decsions are made... that's another case entirely and a stupid one at that... but sometimes, the most responsible person in the world, taking every precaution, can end up in a situaiton where they may need to make a decision regarding this topic.And I assure you... just as there are a ton of girls out there doing it for the right and even the wrong decisions... I'm sure there are even MORE out there who have the child and end up in one of the scenarios in my opening paragraph...

after all that, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I respect that.. but when they start preaching to other people and saying they made a huge mistake, and they start to criticize their own decisions, that's when i get pissed... (not saying anyone here has done that). now how do i get down off this soap box?

dd74 06-11-2006 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
May the silence in the night remind you of dead babies whose cries and laughs have been extinguished for convenience and profit...Their blood is on your hands.
This must be one of the few times you hate the word "Right."

Mulhollanddose 06-11-2006 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
This must be one of the few times you hate the word "Right."
You have perverted the definition of the word. You know the abortion proponents have no argument, or push a false argument, when they must falsely wrap their propaganda in terminology like "reproductive rights."...Nobody is preventing reproduction. Women have no right to murder their child. If the media were not advocates for abortion, a majority of the country would agree that the practice should be illegal.

M.D. Holloway 06-11-2006 10:09 PM

Like so many times in life, we are rarely ready with the perfect responces. The fact is, the baby is killed. Plain and simple. You can senitize it and wrap it around a choice issue. But at the end of the day a perfectly healthy child is killed. Why, really why? Convenient? I guess we don't have great couples out there who would pay big cash to adopt.

Maybe when my Mom wasn't able to feed herself or bath herself or whip her own arse my Dad should have aborted her because it really wasn't very convenient on anyone for her to bearound - well, maybe the place where she spent the last 4 years of her life at $8500 a month. Ya, I guess that was convenient for them.

The more I think about it (and I can't stop thinking about it) the more I know it is just wrong.

trekkor 06-11-2006 10:13 PM

FROM 50_million to 60_million unborn babies perish each year by abortion. Can you comprehend that number? It would be like sweeping the entire population of the Hawaiian Islands off the map every week!

In the United States, abortion is the second most common surgical procedure, next to tonsillectomy. Annually, over 1.5 million abortions are performed. The clear majority of the women are unmarried—4 out of 5._Single women terminated their pregnancies twice as often as they gave birth, while, on an average, married women gave birth ten times as often as they had an abortion.


KT

M.D. Holloway 06-11-2006 10:15 PM

When birth control is pretty much free? Why???

dd74 06-11-2006 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You have perverted the definition of the word. You know the abortion proponents have no argument, or push a false argument, when they must falsely wrap their propaganda in terminology like "reproductive rights."...Nobody is preventing reproduction. Women have no right to murder their child. If the media were not advocates for abortion, a majority of the country would agree that the practice should be illegal.
What you wrote makes as much sense as my words stating "Send all unwanted children to Mulhollanddose."

So are you prepared for such a task, Mr. Dose?

Of course you're not, so you really have nothing to argue, do you?

Moneyguy1 06-11-2006 10:18 PM

If only...

If only all those who are adamantly against abortion would step forward and take one of these unwanted and love them and raise them and give them what, in many cases, they will never have...,

A chance.

But, right or wrong, when a child is born into an economic and social situation that offers nothing but pain, abuse, and hunger, what chance does the child have? I am not including just those cases that are "inner city", etc, but also many that would be born to middle class or higher but abused because they "cramped mama's style".

No, I do not have the answer, and I will never totally understand the problem in its entirety. But, I would like to think there is a special place for these unwanted souls and many may have been spared a life of pain, crime, addiction, and perhaps the lives of potential victims have also been saved.

dd74 06-11-2006 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by trekkor
FROM 50_million to 60_million unborn babies perish each year by abortion. Can you comprehend that number? It would be like sweeping the entire population of the Hawaiian Islands off the map every week!

In the United States, abortion is the second most common surgical procedure, next to tonsillectomy. Annually, over 1.5 million abortions are performed. The clear majority of the women are unmarried—4 out of 5._Single women terminated their pregnancies twice as often as they gave birth, while, on an average, married women gave birth ten times as often as they had an abortion.


KT

It's still a right. It's still a woman's choice. Keep spewing politically motivated ground roots suppositions (50 or 60 million - or whatever), and I'll keep giving you the one and only conclusive and legal fact that at this point the only truth.

dd74 06-11-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by LubeMaster77
When birth control is pretty much free? Why???
Huh? Where'd you conjure that up from?

What's funny about this whole thread is there are so many pejorative "suppose this or suppose that..." being written.

Suppose this:

1) There wasn't some moral Right Christian/Catholic Nazis telling people what they can and can't do with their bodies including using birth control or simpler yet, condoms?

Maybe there wouldn't be "baby killing," going on.

trekkor 06-11-2006 10:28 PM

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politically motivated
I promise you that was not.
Just remarking on the scope of the shredding.
A statement of facts.

I will never give a politically motivated comment...NEVER.

Spiritually motivated...All day long.

Abortion violates the law of life and nature.



KT

Mulhollanddose 06-11-2006 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
What you wrote makes as much sense as my words stating "Send all unwanted children to Mulhollanddose."
Hate to burst your propagandized bubble, but abortion has done squat to curb unwanted pregnancies...It has just become an easy out and escape hatch from irresponsible promiscuity...You outlaw abortion you reduce unwanted pregnancies, society in response becomes more responsible.

There are just as many, if not more, unintended pregnancies since abortion was shoved down our throat by the female homosexual lobby (NOW/NARAL) and the irresponsible whore-monger sperm donors.

Mulhollanddose 06-11-2006 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
It's still a right.
Show me where in the Constitution there is a right to murdering a child for convenience...I musta missed that one. Is there an age cutoff in your NOW Constitution?

snowman 06-11-2006 10:36 PM

Its really quite SIMPLE.... Abortion is MURDER!!!!!!

trekkor 06-11-2006 10:39 PM

There was a well known murder trial here in the Bay Area...Scott Peterson.

He recieved two convictions of murder...Do you remember why?


KT

dd74 06-11-2006 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Hate to burst your propagandized bubble, but abortion has done squat to curb unwanted pregnancies...It has just become an easy out and escape hatch from irresponsible promiscuity...You outlaw abortion you reduce unwanted pregnancies, society in response becomes more responsible.

There are just as many, if not more, unintended pregnancies since abortion was shoved down our throat by the female homosexual lobby (NOW/NARAL) and the irresponsible whore-monger sperm donors.

All I gather from the first graph is you probably carry a pack of Trojans with you at all times; ready, willing and prepared for (whatever type of) sex comes your way.

All I gather from the second graph is you're vehemently jealous there isn't a vial marked "Mul" at the local cum counter.

Well, Jeez man, if you stop wasting it on your own keyboard, maybe you could have two or three little Muls running around by now. SmileWavy


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