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dd74 06-19-2006 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Now go read up on Harvard, then Notre Dame, then Georgetown..etc.
Why? What's your point? (if you have one...)

fintstone 06-19-2006 07:16 PM

Clearly they were much closer to violating this young woman's freedom of speech and her freedom to worship than she was to violating anyone else's freedoms. The left only believe in freedom of speech when you agree with them.

Mulhollanddose 06-19-2006 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
I thought you hated universities since they are hotbeds of the dreaded "liberalism"?
Like all good things in America, liberals parasitically have taken over the host organism and are eating it from the inside out...Nothing good in this nation has come from secularism...NOTHING....This doesn't stop the leftist swine from capitalizing on the fruits of Christian labor and using those fruits for their dishonest and hate-filled objectives of socialism for all.

snowman 06-19-2006 08:50 PM

anything that is Free is worth Nothing. Free speach is worth fighting for and should never be called Free, but a fundamental right of any citizen that is granted by the creator and cannot be limited, in any way. Without speach, the right to have your own opinion, you are not a Free person, but a slave.

Mulhollanddose 06-19-2006 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by snowman
anything that is Free is worth Nothing. Free speach is worth fighting for and should never be called Free, but a fundamental right of any citizen that is granted by the creator and cannot be limited, in any way. Without speach, the right to have your own opinion, you are not a Free person, but a slave.
Leftists are free to spew their evil rhetoric from any church pulpit, without reprisal, however, any Conservative dare express a political opinion from the pulpit will suffer revocation of tax exempt status and all penalities the ACLU and the neo-fascists can think up...Liberalism is the road to fascism, where you are allowed 'free-speech' as long as it is socialistic or communistic--any speech contrary to liberalism must be silenced.

Porsche-O-Phile 06-19-2006 09:30 PM

This may pain you to learn, but Jesus was a liberal.

And a socialist.

dd74 06-19-2006 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Like all good things in America, liberals parasitically have taken over the host organism and are eating it from the inside out...Nothing good in this nation has come from secularism...NOTHING....This doesn't stop the leftist swine from capitalizing on the fruits of Christian labor and using those fruits for their dishonest and hate-filled objectives of socialism for all.
Hmmm...parasites, fruit, labor...

Hey, while typing the above, you weren't by chance watching "Alien meets Ceaser Chavez" ? I hear it's out in video now.

Mulhollanddose 06-19-2006 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Porsche-O-Phile
This may pain you to learn, but Jesus was a liberal.

And a socialist.

I musta missed those passages where he preaches on homosexuality, promiscuity, drug legalization and coerced charity...Care to enlighten me on where exactly you find indications of these false assumptions that Jesus was a liberal/socialist?...I am pretty sure he never said anything like "no go from here and keep on sinning."...I am open to correction.

HardDrive 06-19-2006 10:17 PM

I am kind of shocked by the arguments being made against the this woman.

You WILL NOT find a person less interested in Christianity than myself. Hell, I married a Hindu. I not merely disinterested, I don't like most professed Christians I meet. They irritate the ***** out of me.

But I will never understand the notion that religion must be drummed out of society at ever turn. Perhaps if we stopped hunting and destroying every last scrap of religion in our society, we would notice the HUGE spiritual hole that has formed.

Like it or not, the Christian church played a role in keeping society civil in this country. If we drive it out of our culture.....well, I think we have already seen the results.

dd74 06-19-2006 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
I am open to correction.
I think he would have voted Independent, didn't care two hoots about gays, liked women, and sure, he had a sort of Robin Hood-like aspect to himself and the needy.

I know he wouldn't have driven an EVO. :D

Mulhollanddose 06-19-2006 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
[B]I think he would have voted Independent, didn't care two hoots about gays, liked women, and sure, he had a sort of Robin Hood-like aspect to himself and the needy.
I agree, Jesus would steal from the fat cat government and give tax breaks to the people.

dd74 06-19-2006 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
I agree, Jesus would steal from the fat cat government and give tax breaks to the people.
Christ! So Jesus was Reagan? Nah! It can't be that easy.

Nathans_Dad 06-19-2006 11:43 PM

I've heard this "Jesus was a liberal" thing before, seen it on bumpers stickers.

Exactly where do people think that Jesus was a liberal? Is it just because he said that we should help the poor? That doesn't make him liberal, conservatives think we should help the poor too, just not through a mandated government program fed through our taxes.

dd74 06-19-2006 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
I've heard this "Jesus was a liberal" thing before, seen it on bumpers stickers.

Well, however many years ago Jesus walked the Earth, what was a liberal then, a conservative, et al, is different now.

I would think those who persecuted Jesus were some sort of conservative. The liberals were those Jesus may or may not have sought to save.

The man himself, he was an independent, as could be seen in what has been recounted of him. New way of thinking, living, beliefs -- stuff like that.

Anyway, if you can read this stuff on bumper stickers, personally I think you're a little too close to the car in front of you. ;)

Nathans_Dad 06-19-2006 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Anyway, if you can read this stuff on bumper stickers, personally I think you're a little too close to the car in front of you. ;)
You're probly right. Next time...

RAMMING SPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDD!!!

wludavid 06-20-2006 07:15 AM

Liberals love correct-grammar though. We also hate improper-hyphenation.

kang 06-20-2006 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Like all good things in America, liberals parasitically have taken over the host organism and are eating it from the inside out...Nothing good in this nation has come from secularism...NOTHING....This doesn't stop the leftist swine from capitalizing on the fruits of Christian labor and using those fruits for their dishonest and hate-filled objectives of socialism for all.
Mul, where does your hatred come from? Did you have a bad childhood? Were you abused?

What emotional needs are being met by your hatred of liberals? What needs are being met by your fanaticism?

Moneyguy1 06-20-2006 07:55 AM

If the word "conservative" can be defined as one who accepts the status quo, then most religious and social leaders who have advocated change would not fit the definition. Therefore, if Christ advocated change, then he would have been considered more "liberal" in his philosophy.

There is nothing wrong with seeking change. There is nothing wrong with advocating "staying the course". The result of having both is called "balance". Without balance, you would get some form of totalatarianism. But, there are those who fail to understand the need for balance in everything.

Nathans_Dad 06-20-2006 09:43 AM

Who said that conservative equals the status quo?

I guess my point here is that liberals like to say that Jesus was a liberal, I am guessing due to his outreach to the poor and downtrodden.

As a follower of Jesus and a believer in his teachings, I am certainly interested in how Jesus might view our world today. While it is certainly true that Jesus advocates charity for the poor, that isn't a liberal-only belief. I am a conservative and I donate to my church every month, much of which goes to help the poor. I just don't think that my government should be in charge of redistributing wealth through taxation and government programs. If there is a Bible passage that says Jesus was in favor of government programs and socialism I'd like to see it.

Moreover, modern liberalism (at least as far as the Democratic party) has become defined in large part by the fringes of their party. I guarantee that Jesus would not be in favor of homosexual relationships or homosexual marriage. You don't have to read too much of the Bible to figure that one out.

I suspect, also, that Jesus might be against removing prayer from our society, I bet he might be a little against removing things like "Under God" from the pledge or from our money. I'm also pretty certain that he would not favor banning religious activities in schools or dismissing creationism as bunk.

dd74 06-20-2006 10:08 AM

Here's a question: Would Jesus enjoy the power and influence he has today?


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