Liberals hate free-speech

[Mulhollanddose]

She knew her speech as valedictorian of Foothill High School would be cut short, but Brittany McComb was determined to tell her fellow graduates what was on her mind and in her heart.

But before she could get to the word in her speech that meant the most to her -- Christ -- her microphone went dead.

The decision to cut short McComb's commencement speech Thursday at The Orleans drew jeers from the nearly 400 graduates and their families that went on for several minutes.

However, Clark County School District officials and an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union said Friday that cutting McComb's mic was the right call. Graduation ceremonies are school-sponsored events, a stance supported by federal court rulings, and as such may include religious references but not proselytizing, they said."

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[HardDrive]

If that is accurate, that is disgusting.

[kang]

I don’t see any “hate” here, certainly no hatred of free speech.

The very article you quote has this:

"There should be no controversy here," Lichtenstein said. "It's important for people to understand that a student was given a school-sponsored forum by a school and therefore, in essence, it was a school-sponsored speech."

Lichtenstein said that position was supported by two decisions by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in 2000 and 2003.

Have you heard about this thing called separation of church and state? It says, among other things, that government funded schools cannot sponsor religion, and since this was a school sponsored speech, that is what was happening.

I suppose you could say “liberals hate the joining of church and state.” That would be a more accurate title for this story.

[hunter914]

selfish b!tch:

""I went through four years of school at Foothill and they taught me logic and they taught me freedom of speech," McComb said. "God's the biggest part of my life. Just like other valedictorians thank their parents, I wanted to thank my lord and savior."

The Christian Taliban sucks whatever is in Sandy Berger's pants.

[nostatic]

why do I get the feeling if the student were going to talk about how Allah is important to them and this happened, there would be no outrage?

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by kang
I don’t see any “hate” here, certainly no hatred of free speech.

The very article you quote has this:

Have you heard about this thing called separation of church and state? It says, among other things, that government funded schools cannot sponsor religion, and since this was a school sponsored speech, that is what was happening.

I suppose you could say “liberals hate the joining of church and state.” That would be a more accurate title for this story.

You have to be kidding me?...You are offering that a child cannot express her free speech rights at her graduation?...Are you a fascist?

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by nostatic
why do I get the feeling if the student were going to talk about how Allah is important to them and this happened, there would be no outrage?

Wow Todd, good to see you back in the world of reality.

[kang]

It's the law, not my opinion.

Your own post has this:

a stance supported by federal court rulings

On the other hand, separation of church and state is a good thing.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by nostatic
why do I get the feeling if the student were going to talk about how Allah is important to them and this happened, there would be no outrage?

Totally agree. From the news report there was not that much of a mention of anything biblical (after they edited it) but this "knee jerk" reaction is way out of line.

"school sponsored speech?" Bull crap. She did not work for the school and was leaving it as a student. They just wanted to control it.

Like Todd said, had she been wrapped up in a black bag I bet the outcome would have been different.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by kang
It's the law, not my opinion.

It is un-Constitutional to silence free-speech. It is a direct violation of the 1st Amendment...The ACLU and the liberal teachers unions are advocacy arms for Godless socialism, they are neo-fascists who realize that God must be shoved down the memory hole in order for them to institute a truly neo-communist power structure in the United States.

[hunter914]

Originally posted by nostatic
why do I get the feeling if the student were going to talk about how Allah is important to them and this happened, there would be no outrage?

why do I get the feeling there would have been mass protests by nutjob rightwing Xtians, death threats and a sniper's scope on her head if a student wanted to talk about Allah?

Forget outrage, the Right would have just killed her.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by hunter914
The Christian Taliban sucks whatever is in Sandy Berger's pants.

It is the socialist Taliban that you should fear. They may cut off your head in Afghanistan. In America they silence your free speech, call you names or otherwise demonize you every chance they get...Democrats are neo-Taliban, or Taliban-lite, in their fundamentalist Godlessness....Liberalism is a religion to the left, much more intolerant and oppressive than Christianity ever has been...It is no wonder, as socialism is the common thread of all liberalism, from Hitler to Mao to Stalin to Saddam Hussein.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by hunter914
why do I get the feeling there would have been mass protests by nutjob rightwing Xtians, death threats and a sniper's scope on her head if a student wanted to talk about Allah?

Forget outrage, the Right would have just killed her.

Are you or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

[pmajka]

Free speech: the right to say what you want when you want.
Free hearing: the right not to listen to any of that free speech *****.

[914GT]

The ACLU does not even support free speech within their own ranks.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by 914GT
The ACLU does not even support free speech within their own ranks.

Prove it.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

I can't wait for the ACLU lawsuit on behalf of the Jewish/Muslim/Buddhist/atheist kids that had to sit through that. . .

[914GT]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Prove it.

From the New York Times (registration required):

" The American Civil Liberties Union is weighing new standards that would discourage its board members from publicly criticizing the organization’s policies and internal administration.

“Where an individual director disagrees with a board position on matters of civil liberties policy, the director should refrain from publicly highlighting the fact of such disagreement,” the committee that compiled the standards wrote in its proposals.

“Directors should remember that there is always a material prospect that public airing of the disagreement will affect the A.C.L.U. adversely in terms of public support and fund-raising,” the proposals state.

Given the organization’s longtime commitment to defending free speech, some former board members were shocked by the proposals."

[914GT]

Liberals believe in freedom of speech, as long as it's speech they agree with.

[Tobra]

Separation of church and state is nowhere in The Constitution Einstein. It talks about no laws restricting religion or establishing one. This is a freedom of speech issue, not a freedom from religion issue.

Read a story recently where the graduating class of a public HS wanted to recite the Lord's Prayer at their graduation. This was of course verboten accroding to the school. The kids went ahead and did it anyway, sort of a thank you Jesus, stick it where the sun don't shine to the school administration

7 minutes from "Prove it", to response, outstanding