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Rodeo 07-13-2006 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie
But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer."
— Barbara Bush on "Good Morning America," March 18, 2003


Holy crap!!! She said that? She actually said that??

If she said that, these people are not just misguided and stupid, they are evil.

Pure evil.

pwd72s 07-13-2006 07:39 AM

Back in 1964, the Democrats ads said I'd see bombing and war if I voted for Republican Barry Goldwater. Well, I voted for Goldwater. The Democrats were right.

MichiganMat 07-13-2006 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
Holy crap!!! She said that? She actually said that??

If she said that, these people are not just misguided and stupid, they are evil.

Pure evil.

Naw, just Barbara. She's a Ghoul of the highest order. Remember her Katrina comment: "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them."

lendaddy 07-13-2006 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by MichiganMat
Naw, just Barbara. She's a Ghoul of the highest order. Remember her Katrina comment: "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them."
Oh get a grip.

From snopes:

I watch none. He [former President Bush] sits and listens and I read books, because I know perfectly well that, don't take offense, that 90 percent of what I hear on television is supposition, when we're talking about the news. And he's not, not as understanding of my pettiness about that. But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer.
Read within the context of the full interview, it is a tiny bit more clear that Mrs. Bush's "beautiful mind" statement referred to her desire not to become mesmerized by the pre-war media speculation of what such an invasion would mean, what sorts of weaponry and defenses U.S. troops might well be walking into, which troops would be committed and when they'd be deployed, how long the war would last, and how high the body count might be. Prior to the commencement of hostilities, such matters were the subject of endless supposition by various news pundits. While maybe not "90 percent" of what was filling the air waves was guesswork rather than hard news, Mrs. Bush's point that news of that moment was much more about what could or might happen rather than what was happening was valid. Her comment was not meant as a dismissal of actual deaths or suffering (troops had not yet been engaged at the time of her remark), but of news coverage that amounted to one expert after another making predictions about what they saw as likely to occur.

Rodeo 07-13-2006 08:06 AM

ok, I didn't pick up on the date ... It's pre-war. I took the quote in the context of the debate over censorship of coffin photos, which it was not.

Mulhollanddose 07-13-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by DaveE
What's more tasteless, starting a war or showing the effects?
True to pattern, the use of our primarily conservative soldiers' bodies as some sort of sickening rallying maskot, by democrats, is more sickening. They tarnish, prostitute even, soldiers who they would otherwise spit on and call baby killer. The rats do not speak for our soldiers, their families, and certainly not the iraqi innocent.

It seems capitalizing on the dead is nothing new to the disgusting democrats...paul wellstone and coretta scott king memorials prove this forcefully.

Yes, piece of ***** is an accurate label for the rats and those who elect them.

john70t 07-13-2006 12:54 PM

Yup, the thought of dead Americans who died for our country should all just go away quietly. Used tissue.

MichiganMat 07-13-2006 01:02 PM

Hey Mul, why don't you tell us how you really feel and stop beating around the bush ("Bush"?) ?.

lendaddy 07-13-2006 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by john70t
Yup, the thought of dead Americans who died for our country should all just go away quietly. Used tissue.
Oh, the ad was a memorial? I thought it was used as political currency to buy votes. But since it was a memorial I don't see a problem with it.

Mulhollanddose 07-13-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by pwd72s
Back in 1964, the Democrats ads said I'd see bombing and war if I voted for Republican Barry Goldwater. Well, I voted for Goldwater. The Democrats were right.
Did I miss the tongue-in-cheek? There is no question that the democrats start and cause more war and strife, both foreign and domestic. There is no question that how to administer war and how to make peace are subjects best left to republicans.

Democrats have mastered the art of creating war, turning it into a quagmire, and then prematurely surrendering.

techweenie 07-13-2006 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Oh, the ad was a memorial? I thought it was used as political currency to buy votes. But since it was a memorial I don't see a problem with it.
Oh, you mean like the president using the magic phrase "9/11" to get his every political objective accomplished?

Mulhollanddose 07-13-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Oh, the ad was a memorial? I thought it was used as political currency to buy votes. But since it was a memorial I don't see a problem with it.
My bad to. I thought they were tying the dead bodies of our soldiers to the back of their hybrids, dragging them in their parade, and announcing with bullhorns that bush did it...for political purposes...metaphorically.
That's silly though, they wouldn't do that..

nostatic 07-13-2006 01:54 PM

yeah, 9/11 has never been invoked for political gain...

john70t 07-13-2006 02:08 PM

I didn't see the ad. The Dems are equally pathetic and are still in a whirlwind spin catching up with the Repubs superb political posturing.

But I think I see the forest, and I don't like it. Not for me, not for my grandchildren.

Mulhollanddose 07-13-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
yeah, 9/11 has never been invoked for political gain...
You have to admit that after the disgusting democrat exploitation of wellstone and coretta's memorials, it is easier to believe democrats are exploiting our dead soldiers...if we must argue the obvious.

Mulhollanddose 07-13-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by john70t
The Dems are equally pathetic and are still in a whirlwind spin catching up with the Repubs superb political posturing.
He who controls the media dictates perception. The republicans can "superbly posture" all they want, but if the media are bent on pushing them off the political cliff posture while falling is useless.

That said, the republican posturing is anything but superb...they are like a great company with 90% of the competition's advertising budget bent on convincing the consumer they are evil.

Seahawk 07-13-2006 03:03 PM

Using coffins for a political gain is as stupid and ill advised as using an aircraft carrier to proclaim victory in the nasient stages of a conflict. The tragedy is both tacts are predictable.

Pretending the other side is more crass than your side in a political fight is obtuse.

I know folks in those coffins...and I hate both sides: Bush for his handling of the conflict and the DEMS for waffling in the face of a determined foe after they bet on the river card.

nostatic 07-13-2006 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by Seahawk
Using coffins for a political gain is as stupid and ill advised as using an aircraft carrier to proclaim victory in the nasient stages of a conflict. The tragedy is both tacts are predictable.

Pretending the other side is more crass than your side in a political fight is obtuse.

I know folks in those coffins...and I hate both sides: Bush for his handling of the conflict and the DEMS for waffling in the face of a determined foe after they bet on the river card.

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dd74 07-13-2006 03:49 PM

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Flatbutt1 07-13-2006 03:54 PM

the link appears to have been adios-ed. So maybe others have thrown some heat their way.


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