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Violence in Latin America - An entire continent is slipping backwards in time
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Is this the result of a two tiered society consisting of the very wealthy minority and the destitute majority in many of these countries?
I wonder if this could be a cautionary tale for even the US if the chasm between the uber rich and everyone else continues to grow. Just some idle thoughts. Happy 4th, everyone!!
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My thoughts exactly. The rift between have/have-nots and rich/poor is more evident than at any point in U.S. history due to the genocide of the middle class at the hands of the neocons, the tax & spend liberals, the theocratic nutcases and the pseudo-socialist softies that bicker and argue about extremist positions while the moderate/middle gets non-represented and screwed. I just wonder how far things will need to go and how bad things will need to get before people will get off their lazy fat asses and do something about it. Something to ponder on this day which we celebrate ACTION and the start of events that culminated in the start of an armed rebellion against a tyrranical and oppressive government that existed to serve only its own selfish interests and those of the elite aristocracy. . . Definitely something to ponder. . .
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South America has been going "backward in time" since long before I was born.
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As Regis Philbin would say - It's outta control! I'm just glad we get the law abiding Latinos up here.
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Have spent a fair amount of time there and agree. The cocaine situation and constant military uprisings in the area have not helped. Unfortunately feel that its going to get worse before it gets better...
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I was in Dominica about a year ago and 100% of the population votes, I mean literally 100% including the elderly in homes, with observers from the political parties. Sure both parties are basically socialists, but everyone gets involved.
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I was in Suriname and French Guyane for 2 months (working) coming back 3 weeks ago.
I have been there now 3 times over 3 years. Things are sooo much better! Crime is down, Chinese investment is pouring in creating jobs, road construction etc...so the middle class is coming back. It has to as someone has to buy the consumer goods China sells. Where is the USA in all this?? A newly configured road in front of the Embassy that everyone laughs at for a waste of money. US Corporations are starting to slowly look to invest but China is already there pouring money in and securing oil rights. Now Trinidad is wild and dangerous as I have seen, car robberys in broad daylight. The government is totally corrupt and hogs all the oil royaltys so the opposition is funding the criminals to create chaos. It has succeeded, as people are killed or kidnapped all the time unless you know someone who protects you. The value system is very different down there, but people are so upbeat and friendly even when they have next to nothing. Yes, in Suriname the ex-dictator is still around in his fortified compound and you must not "cross" him or you will disappear without a trace. Democracy is slowly succeeding there but in their own form and pace. Lots of mistakes are being made but where else can you find a Mosque, a Jewish Temple, Hindustani Temple and a Catholic Church across from each other. US Foreign Aid is down to a trickle and their is resentment that our USA is soo rich and can't afford to give something to help them progress. Now the Gates Foundation is stepping in with money to fight AIDS and other ills as the Bush governmet spends billions on a war half way across the globe. People in South America don't understand that, when they need so much help just getting clean water, electricity, and infastructure.
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US Foreign Aid goes to the usual suspects and is waste of our tax money.. |
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Open border? typical US feelings, but getting a work visa so you can stay if you come to the USA is not easy. I know several people trying to get in legally as they want to come and work. I can't say its population pressures unless you are talking about Brazil. Its that America media is world wide so people see it. They want a nice home, car, being able to go anywhere, safety, all the stuff we take for granted. Most aren't aware of our countries problems as its "America" like DisneyWorld, a dreamland.
US Aid goes to many things not just the pockets of a few. Sure everyone skims off some money (don't they do that here?) but it does go to good needed projects instead of a oil war. Ah, if you had family in another country you wouldn't send some money back to help support them?? Their Family values are different too, we are more loners/make it on our own where they embrace community/family and their elders are treated with respect.
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People have been sending home money for a long time. I dont think it is a bad thing. My point is that it adds up to a lot more money and is better spend that all of our foreign aid..
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The feelings and thoughts I got from people there about drugs is that if Americans are stupid enough to take and buy them, we will sell them to them. What have they done for us lately? We need money so this way we get money (US Dollars) and guess who builds schools, donates it to good causes, builds stores, housing etc? Yep, the Drug Dealers. They need a way to clean that cash so they spend it on good works.
Running fresh water is a big issue there and vitally needed. Why can't the Foreign Aid do something for that? Or the building of the final legs of the PanAmerican highway from Alaska to the tip of Chile? That would be money well spent. Maybe Haliburton can have the contract. What's the Golden Rule? The US is suppling Mercury to the gold miners in turn which pollutes the rivers in Suriname. Wow, where does some of those large scampi come from for your shrimp dishes at fancy restaurants? Yes, the Suriname river which is world famous for their shrimping which is now getting traces of Mercury in the fish. I have some local friends who are trying to help the villagers test for Mercury but the US Mining folks are paying off people in very high places to try to stop them. Again who is finally paying the price? yes, the American consumer. ![]() My point is if you don't share with others less fortunate it creates hostility and apathy for your own problems in others. 911, hah, they say we deserved it or faked it so we could attack Iraq. I can go on and on about how Tyson's is dumping chicken legs on South American countries because McDonalds and the US consumer will only eat breast meat. Tyson's dumping at super low prices is killing local chicken farmers who grow their chicken without hormones, range fed etc.
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