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Craig 930 RS 08-21-2006 02:31 PM

That is what I thought you referred to - has nothing anywhere on the router that is like the number you referred to

Has a MAC address - Starts with 000625 etc as does the RCA cable modem

Heeelp. Have a good lunch? :-)

slodave 08-21-2006 02:57 PM

This number should be the default I.P. of the Linksys device: 192.168.1.245. Follow the steps regarding adding a static I.P. to your laptop I gave, and see if you can then ping the above number.

You might have to reset the AP again.

Dave

Moses 08-21-2006 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
and you guys scoff at Mac users...this is just one reason why we use what we use. Airport admin app is very well behaved...and easy to use.
I think they like this crap. I really do. It's like dungeons and dragons for grownups. "I killed the gnome with a hexadecimal bitmap!" :rolleyes:

Craig 930 RS 08-21-2006 03:28 PM

SloDave - Entered the above, with the exception of .100 instead of .245.
Correct?

Pinged it and it responded.
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So how do my PC IP address and my laptop addy correspond?

450knotOffice 08-21-2006 03:44 PM

So? Did you solve the problem? I've been following this all day (it's like a good detective case).

Craig 930 RS 08-21-2006 03:48 PM

Laptop repaired the connection and renewed the IP address
Accesed my IP address on the PC

BUT.........still can't get a connection from the wireless to the laptop - ie no internet access on the laptop>

?

930addict 08-21-2006 04:41 PM

Hey Craig, I would recommend reconfiguring your WEP from scratch. I think there may be an issue with the key.

Did you use a passphrase in the router or did you enter a key into one of the supplied fileds for the key? Did you use the passphrase in the laptop or ?

jyl 08-21-2006 05:02 PM

Can't help you but I feel your pain.

I am reasonably PC-savvy. Used to build my own PCs, tinker w/ Windows, installed my first WiFi network in 2002. But for me WEP/WPA has always been a screaming PITA. It never seems to work smoothly, I finally quit bothering and simply went around my house, collected the MACs for everything that used the 802.11 network, and used MAC filtering in lieu of spending more unproductive hours screwing w/ hexadecawhatever keys.

slodave 08-21-2006 05:03 PM

Goto start -> run, type in cmd again, then type in "ipconfig /all" (without quotes) Post the results. Run this on the laptop.
Dave


Quote:

Originally posted by Craig911
Laptop repaired the connection and renewed the IP address
Accesed my IP address on the PC

BUT.........still can't get a connection from the wireless to the laptop - ie no internet access on the laptop>

?


StevoRocket 08-21-2006 05:21 PM

Just check to see how many networks you can see - then if you see a lot - switch off the router when you dont use it.
If you see no other networks at any time of day - chances are they cant see yours either - so no problem!
After 30 years in computers I still cant understand why the manufacturers make this so difficult for the average user.

Craig 930 RS 08-21-2006 06:30 PM

Slo & all - here are the results:

Mode Type: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled: Yes
WINSProxy Enabled: No

Connection
Physical address 00-12-F0-81-FC-XX (not sure if this is secure stuff - there is a two digit number at the end where the XX is)
Dhcp Enabled: No
IP address: 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State: Media disconnected
Description: Marvell Yukon *8E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet

Ethernet Controller:
Physical address: 00-0F-B0-85-FD-)F

450knotOffice 08-21-2006 07:07 PM

I know that compared to most of you guys I am but a rank amateur but I have been able to set up my wireless network twice in the past without any problems. The first time was an open configuration. The next time I reconfigured it for WPA-PSK encryption.

That being said, it seems as if you need to simply start from square one on your laptop.

Go to Start, Control Panel, Network and Internet Connections, Wireless Network Setup Wizard, and go from there.

If you've done this already, I apologize for suggesting something that may already be obvious. If not, try the setup wizard. At this point you've got nothing to lose but a few more minutes.

Craig 930 RS 08-21-2006 07:22 PM

Good point. Isn't a true 'wireless network' one where data is duplicated on all machines in that network?

IDEA: Doesn't XP have a feature where I can go back a day and start from the point BEFORE I messed up?

slodave 08-21-2006 07:32 PM

Have you reset your AP/router (Linsys device) by pushing the little button on the back with a pencil or other small object? Is your desktop plugged into the Linsus device as well? Your laptop, from the info given shows the static I.P. I gave you, but I never gave you a gateway address and it shows. If the Linsys device does have an I.P. address of 192.168.0.245, then you need to go back to the network connections and navigate to the tcp/ip connections like befor, and add the above gateway below the netmask (255.255.255.0). Try this and see what happens. Also, did you give the model number of the Linksys device? If not, please post it.

Thanks!

Dave

Craig 930 RS 08-21-2006 07:39 PM

BEFW11S4 Ver. 2

slodave 08-21-2006 07:48 PM

OK, So it is a router by default and can be set to be an access point. Earlier you said (I think) that you could ping your desktop from your laptop and vice versa? Try adding the gateway address as I suggested to your laptop. Also run the same ipconfig command on your desktop and please post the results. We'll go from there.

Dave

450knotOffice 08-21-2006 07:56 PM

Here's the installation guide for your router. If I were you, I'd pretend you just pulled it out of the box and start from the beginning. I'd press the little button in the back, disconnect the unit from the computer and start from the very beginning of the instructions.

I did this when I did the second setup of my router. I pretended I never had the unit installed and disconnected all of the cables and started all over again.

Please, try this:
http://www.familiesonlinemagazine.com/BEFW11S4.pdf#search=%22BEFW11S4%20Ver.%202%20insta ll%20instructions%22

930addict 08-21-2006 08:10 PM

I agree with 450KnotOffice. I think you need to start from the beginning. You shouldn't have to try to force it to work. Either WEP is setup correctly or it's not. The router is issuing IP addresses because your desktop computer, which is hard-wired to the router and obviously not using WEP, is getting one from the router. If WEP was setup correctly your wireless laptop should also receive its DHCP info. If you want to just make it work for now disable WEP on the router and create a new wireless connection on the laptop using the wizard. Read the manual which is available on the linksys site and experiment.

I've heard of instances where when the keys are mismatched the same symptoms as you are seing here (i.e. shows connected to wireless network but not able to find an IP address) manifest themselves.

Just my .02 coming from someone with lots of experience with this stuff.

slodave 08-21-2006 08:13 PM

I would suggest the same, but he mentioned a desktop that was plugged into the router and working. Would hate to see him loose that too right now.

Dave

450knotOffice 08-21-2006 08:19 PM

I don't see how that would happen. What would Craig do if he decided to buy the latest 802.G wirelss router? He'd have to start over again from square one and follow the installation instructions given.

Instead of making it difficult, why not make it simple and take the online installation instructions and start over again from square one?

JMO, but it's what I'd do in a nanosecond.


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