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kach22i 09-12-2006 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by lendaddy
I need to work on my humor, I didn't think I was that subtle.
I forgot a republican was talking.

lendaddy 09-12-2006 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by kach22i
I forgot a republican was talking.
At which time you should listen and show some respect:D

But seriously, I wasn't kidding. Did you really believe that DeVos did that? I mean....widget X used to be made in Michigan, but now DeVos is having it made in China. Is that really what you thought or what?

kach22i 09-12-2006 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by lendaddy
At which time you should listen and show some respect:D

But seriously, I wasn't kidding. Did you really believe that DeVos did that? I mean....widget X used to be made in Michigan, but now DeVos is having it made in China. Is that really what you thought or what?
Okay, DeVos......international business man determines he can make more money (ROI) closing the business his daddy built and starting a new business in China.

So why would this give him any ability to solve Michigan's problems?

Yea, he needed the leverage of his Michigan assets to secure financing for his venture in China, once that was done he did a cut and run.

DeVos...........cuts and runs.

Republican alright.

EDIT:
I've read your talking points, don't bother me with them.

Link:
http://www.migop.org/talking_points.asp

lendaddy 09-12-2006 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by kach22i
Okay, DeVos......international business man determines he can make more money (ROI) closing the business his daddy built and starting a new business in China.

So why would this give him any ability to solve Michigan's problems?

Yea, he needed the leverage of his Michigan assets to secure financing for his venture in China, once that was done he cut and run.

DeVos...........cuts and runs.

Republican alright.
???? Closed ???? He didn't close his business here, not even remotely. They are a HUGE employer here. Who told you he closed his business here?

Second, 200 million is nothing to him (alticor as a corporation), he didn't have to leverage jack. Where do you get your info on this? Heck I've never heard such claims before.

scottmandue 09-12-2006 11:38 AM
DEVO's running? He!! yeah they got my vote... so will each guy take turns running the country?

lendaddy 09-12-2006 11:44 AM
So Kach, are you going to answer my question? I am not being a dick, I am genuinely curious. I wonder if this is what people out there think.

john70t 09-12-2006 11:52 AM
I think that, and I care about Michigans economic future.

kach22i 09-12-2006 11:53 AM
Straight up guy?


http://www.answers.com/topic/amway
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Legal rulings

In the 1979 In re. Amway Corp. (93 F.T.C. 618) ruling [7], the Federal Trade Commission found that Amway does not qualify as an illegal pyramid scheme since the main aim of the enterprise is the sale of product. It did, however, order Amway to change several business practices and prohibited the company from misrepresenting the amount of profit, earnings or sales its distributors are likely to achieve. Amway was ordered to accompany any such statements with the actual averages per distributor, pointing out that more than half of the distributors do not make any money, with the average distributor making less than $100 per month. The order was violated with a 1986 ad campaign, resulting in a $100,000 fine. [8]

In 1983, Amway, headed by Richard DeVos, pled guilty to tax evasion and customs fraud in Canada, resulting in a fine of $25 million CAD, the largest fine ever imposed in that country.

Other violations

In 2005, Amway/Quixtar orchestrated an attempt to drown out sites reporting deceptive practices and negative opinions. The "Web Initiative" was flagged as Google bombing, a violation of Google's Quality Guidelines.

kach22i 09-12-2006 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by lendaddy
So Kach, are you going to answer my question? I am not being a dick, I am genuinely curious. I wonder if this is what people out there think.
I am not part of Amway, his bank, and not part of the Federal government , my knowlege base of Devos finances are limited - will not take GOP talking points as fact.

I don't trust Devos, anyone familiar with his business practices will not either.

Rodeo 09-12-2006 12:00 PM
Tools do what they are designed to do daddy, otherwise they are defective and get thrown away.

You are still fulfilling your intended purpose :)

lendaddy 09-12-2006 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Rodeo
Tools do what they are designed to do daddy, otherwise they are defective and get thrown away.

You are still fulfilling your intended purpose :)
Rodeo you ignorant slut:D

lendaddy 09-12-2006 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by kach22i
I am not part of Amway, his bank, and not part of the Federal government , my knowlege base of Devos finances are limited - will not take GOP talking points as fact.

I don't trust Devos, anyone familiar with his business practices will not either.
So you fabricate attacks on him? You admit you don't know, yet you spread this stuff?

Rodeo 09-12-2006 12:07 PM
I'll shoot you in the back, you keep talkin' to me like that, fool :)

lendaddy 09-12-2006 12:08 PM
Not to mention he left Alticor in 2004. Not that you'd know that........or apparently care.

dd74 09-12-2006 12:11 PM
Is McCain running? I'd vote for him. I listened to Hillary last night during the 9/11 memorial proceedings. I heard words, beliefs, causes, etc., but noticed, I think, that she's also had "work" done.

I don't like presidential candidates who have had "work" done on themselves.

lendaddy 09-12-2006 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by dd74
Is McCain running? I'd vote for him. I listened to Hillary last night during the 9/11 memorial proceedings. I heard words, beliefs, causes, etc., but noticed, I think, that she's also had "work" done.

I don't like presidential candidates who have had "work" done on themselves.
He's running, but he won't get through the primaries. Not likely anyway.

Porsche-O-Phile 09-12-2006 12:35 PM
Nominated for "Biggest Troll Post in History".

lendaddy 09-12-2006 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Porsche-O-Phile
Nominated for "Biggest Troll Post in History".
It's true, libs are angry, crusty, humorless creatures:D

dd74 09-12-2006 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by lendaddy
He's running, but he won't get through the primaries. Not likely anyway.
Why is that, you think?

Rodeo 09-12-2006 01:38 PM
He's too literate and nuanced for "the base," i.e. daddy and his friends :)


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