Plans for an American Hiroshima soon?

[cantdrv55]

I cut this off Michael Savage's website. Just started listening to his talk show on AM radio. He's really high on himself so he's hard to take but this caught my attention. Scroll down a little. Muslims ordered to leave the US now. Alarmist or not?

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/paul-williams091606.htm

[RoninLB]

great article

In war you can't plan for the unexpected.

They'll need to do it before Mr Bush leaves office.

[fastpat]

For an American Hiroshima to take place, the country would first have to be surrounded by nearly every country in Western civilization, have more than 90% of its industry bombarded flat, cut off from outside resources with no internal supplies, and lose tens of millions of civilians.

When did that happen?

You fear mongers really take the cake.

Oh yes, I've known Michael Weiner, aka Michael Savage, for over 10 years. He's a national socialist.

[azasadny]

Fear mongering idiots! That's who these people (the ones threatening and the ones who believe them) are. Ignore them and let them go back to their caves...

[Drdogface]

With our borders as porous as they are I don't know why it is so unbelievable. Whether they have actual nukes or 'just' dirty bombs they can kill a lot of people and wreak untold havoc. I have heard of this plot/plan from several sources and believe every word. Muslims and their mosques in the US will have a rough time of it when/if something of this magnitude gets pulled off. Not a threat...just prediction.

As for Michael Savage, yes he does have a healthy ego, but IMHO he tells it like it is and exposes the weakness and PC of our govt. every day.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Drdogface
As for Michael Savage, yes he does have a healthy ego, but IMHO he tells it like it is and exposes the weakness and PC of our govt. every day.

If "like it is" is putting all dissidents in concentration camps, then you are correct. He has advocated this for years.

[Drdogface]

Pat,
Here we go again. You and I seldom agree..so be it. Define 'dissident' in this particular case.

Some of what he says is hyperbole and you have to be able to sort it out..most people can, but I'd still like you to get specific about who he wants to put in 'concentration camp'...doubt he ever used that phrase.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Drdogface
Pat,
Here we go again. You and I seldom agree..so be it. Define 'dissident' in this particular case.

Some of what he says is hyperbole and you have to be able to sort it out..most people can, but I'd still like you to get specific about who he wants to put in 'concentration camp'...doubt he ever used that phrase.

That would be anyone in opposition to the Bush'ist invasion of any other country. He has used "concentration camps" many times, so many that if there is a web site with transcripts of his shows, you'll easily find the reference. I lived in the Bay area and listened to him quite a bit during the Clinton years, long before he went national. He favors many social programs, is always on the side of the police no matter what the issue, and as I say, would have me and many others arrested and put into camps.

[nostatic]

fiction. He should try writing in Hollywood, but he's a little too much of a hack:

Hamid Mir, the author of the interview, is a top Pakistani reporter, head of the Geo TV Bureau in Islamabad. He has won a world-wide acclaim for his interviews with Osama bin Laden and Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, before and following 9/11. His new book about OBL is due to appear in Britain, later this year.
Long time investigative journalist, Paul L. Williams is the author of such best-selling books as The Dunces of Doomsday, The Al Qaeda Connection , Osama's Revenge: The Next 9/11. He has been the subject of a PBS documentary and the subject of programs on the Discovery and History channels. He is a frequent guest on such national news networks as Fox News, MSNBC, and NPR.
(International journalist David M. Dastych writes for Poland's acclaimed weekly,Wprost. His columns appear regularly in the Edmonton-based Polish Panorama.) He can be reached at: David.dastych@aster.pl

[Drdogface]

Originally posted by fastpat
That would be anyone in opposition to the Bush'ist invasion of any other country.

Pat,
While Savage is contraversial in his style...and some of his content...what you just said is absolute nonsense. He is down on Bush almost every day...for that matter so am I but for different reasons that you most likely.

I'm done with this thread...

[pwd72s]

What's sad? It will take an attack like this to convince the Bush
haters that these terrorist groups really do wish to kill all who do not worship Allah under their version of the Muslim religion. I mean, really! They DO want to kill us...

[Eric 951]

Originally posted by fastpat
That would be anyone in opposition to the Bush'ist invasion of any other country. He has used "concentration camps" many times, so many that if there is a web site with transcripts of his shows, you'll easily find the reference. I lived in the Bay area and listened to him quite a bit during the Clinton years, long before he went national. He favors many social programs, is always on the side of the police no matter what the issue, and as I say, would have me and many others arrested and put into camps.

yes

[rammstein]

Originally posted by Drdogface
dirty bombs they can kill a lot of people and wreak untold havoc.

Just wanted to mention something here. Many people have a HUGE misconception about dirty bombs. That is precisely what makes them dangerous :the fear factor involved. Basically, from what I have read dirty bombs simply spray some low-level radiation around a few city blocks, and people exposed might have a 1% greater chance of certain cancers over a lifetime. As long as everyone realizes this, the dirty bomb is a waste of terrorist time. Read this, and feel free to research other reputable sources too.

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/dirty-bombs.html

What I personally think would wreak the most havok would be something like 30 guys doing a Mohommad/Malvo style sniper spree across the country simultaneously for many months. That would be a VERY scary situation, and unfortunately impossible to prevent and relatively easy to execute.

[techweenie]

FEAR.

That's all the Bushistas have to sell. And this Mir guy is on the bandwagon, trying to cash in.

These guys have been on every wacko AM show, including Coast to Coast (the old Art Bell show) promoting the OBL threat. It gets the hoi polloi all atwitter. It sells books. It serves the motives of the party in power.

Most Americans have long gone into fear burnout.

[Racerbvd]

Originally posted by techweenie
FEAR.

That's all thehave to sell. And this Mir guy is on the bandwagon, trying to cash in.

These guys have been on every wacko AM show, including Coast to Coast (the old Art Bell show) promoting the OBL threat. It gets the hoi polloi all atwitter. It sells books. It serves the motives of the party in power.

Most Americans have long gone into fear burnout.

Fear, every election cycle, the demakooks call old people and tell them that the Republicans are going to starve them, demkooks tell blacks that Republicans are going to send civil rights back, black churches will burn, even though it is the demakooks who keep the black man down and enslaved and no churches have been burned by Republicans. Demakooks talk about economy is going to go into the dump, yet, like all the other bull$h!t lies that the demakooks spewed, to spread spread fear, that too have been unfounded and many are making more money and spending more. So don't post that Bushistas have nothing to sell but fear, and just encase the collective liberals heads are so far up their a$$, terrorist did fly planes in building, the same buildings that terrorist tried to blow up years before, terrorist have attacked and damaged the USS Cole, their have also set bombs off all over the world, so if you plan on keeping your head up your a$$es, be thankful that others are doing something, or you could kiss your collective a$$es goodbye!! The demakooks wrote the book on fear to win election, kind of like the little boy who cried wolf, but the same ones who have cried wolf, don't accept the realality

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Racerbvd
Fear, every election cycle, the demakooks call old people and tell them that the Republicans are going to starve them, demkooks tell blacks that Republicans are going to send civil rights back, black churches will burn,

The Republicans have been the party of state corporatism, that is to say, corporate welfare for over 140 years. Please don't claim others are socialist any more than the Republicans always have been.

As to the other things, most of that is bluster to warn the US government to not come to where they are living. I wish them well in finding out how to communicate that desire more clearly, but it's obvious that you've been reached.

[techweenie]

Like I said. The hoi polloi are all atwitter. Everyone is out to get them!

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by fastpat


The Republicans have been the party of state corporatism, that is to say, corporate welfare for over 140 years. Please don't claim others are socialist any more than the Republicans always have been.

Just say you don't like the Feds hanging out with big business without trying to comment & understand one of the two main foundations of every society.

That'll make sense only if you agree that Economics and War has historically defined a society. Our Economic model is so fantastic that the Russians and China had to adapt it or experience revolution. Our model can't be 100% pleasing to everyone 100% of the time.

[pwd72s]

The sin of capitalism lies in the unequal sharing of it's rewards. The blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill