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nostatic 09-28-2006 12:20 PM

the cost of killing
 
Interesting quote on an internet calendar I just got from Visibone:

"It cost about $0.75 to kill a man in Caesar's time. The price rose to about $3K per man during the Napoleonic wars, to $5K in the American Civil War, and then to $21K per man in World War I. Estimates for the future wars indicate that it may cost the warring countries not less than $50K for each man killed"

- Homer Truet Bone

ed's note: Bone was a US Senator during WWII. The 2003-2006 Iraq War cost $11M per enemy killed

cashflyer 09-28-2006 01:09 PM

And yet in many areas of America, people are only worth the money in their pocket.

Burnin' oil 09-28-2006 01:13 PM

I guess we need to kill a whole bunch all at once to bring down the average

Jim Richards 09-28-2006 01:17 PM

werd

nostatic 09-28-2006 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Burnin' oil
I guess we need to kill a whole bunch all at once to bring down the average
I like your proactive paradigm. That sort of outside-the-box thinking really highlights our synergies so we can grow the kill count while controlling costs for a win-win.

Oh wait, wrong thread...

bryanthompson 09-28-2006 01:46 PM

what are you getting at, todd? Yeah, we may use a million dollar missile fired from a 20 million dollar airplane to take out a house with five terrorists. There's less collateral damage in this modern war than in any of the time periods in your previous post. Isn't that worth something? IF we knock off even a couple civilians* it makes news and is used against us.

civilians* meaning actual innocent people killed, not families that invite terrorists into their homes and are killed because of it.

M.D. Holloway 09-28-2006 01:55 PM

I know I could have somebody killed for 10K easy.

If I was to offer you 1million to kill a child rapest would you do it? I bet you would provided you figued out a way to do it and not get caught but what if I offered you $100,000? Would you still? How about $10,000? $1,000? $100?

Would you kill anybody for $10Million? Thats a lot of chink!!! Think about it...

red-beard 09-28-2006 01:58 PM

Well, in Ceasar's time, the non-combatants, including women and children, were considered enemy and usually were killed.

These days, if you drop a bomb on the wrong house during war, you're likely to be sued!

nostatic 09-28-2006 02:00 PM

I'm not necesarily getting at any point. I just thought it was a pretty interesting trend and set of data.

fastpat 09-28-2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
what are you getting at, todd? Yeah, we may use a million dollar missile fired from a 20 million dollar airplane to take out a house with five terrorists. There's less collateral damage in this modern war than in any of the time periods in your previous post. Isn't that worth something? IF we knock off even a couple civilians* it makes news and is used against us.

civilians* meaning actual innocent people killed, not families that invite terrorists into their homes and are killed because of it.

Killing one civilian is a war crime, it makes no difference if it's accidental or not.

What makes the crimes in this particular war much more onerous than in some past military adventures staged by the US government is that it was a war of choice, based on lies, opposed by everyone with more than 5 gray cells to rub together, and both immoral and unethical.

tabs 09-28-2006 02:06 PM

Inflation...a Dineary isn't worth what it once was...

Hugh R 09-28-2006 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
I know I could have somebody killed for 10K easy.

If I was to offer you 1million to kill a child rapest would you do it? I bet you would provided you figued out a way to do it and not get caught but what if I offered you $100,000? Would you still? How about $10,000? $1,000? $100?

Would you kill anybody for $10Million? Thats a lot of chink!!! Think about it...

Uhg, I thought in Texas you could actually buy a license to kill child rapists. So i'd be paying money for the priviledge, right?

fastpat 09-28-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
I know I could have somebody killed for 10K easy.

If I was to offer you 1million to kill a child rapest would you do it? I bet you would provided you figued out a way to do it and not get caught but what if I offered you $100,000? Would you still? How about $10,000? $1,000? $100?

Would you kill anybody for $10Million? Thats a lot of chink!!! Think about it...

The problem with your scenario is "who" identified the man as a child rapist? His neighbor with which he's had a running battle over fencing issues? Someone who owes him money? The government?

If I found a man raping a child, then there's no issue, he dies because I'm lawfully defending a person unable to defend themselves from a violent crime in progress.

M.D. Holloway 09-28-2006 07:17 PM

Lets say all the evidence points to him, the child acknowledges it and there is DNA to support it. Lets even go a step further and say he admits it and it is your little Sister he raped. She is/was 10. Also, to make things more interesting a cache of kiddy porn was found (by you) in his closet complete with pics of your little sis.

Easy answer, many of you would most likely kill him if you could get away with it but say all that stuff was still true except that it wasn't your lil sis it was your best friends sister. Would you do it?

How about if it was a neighbor girl? Would you snuff him out for a mil? How about $1000? $100?

What if it wasn't anyone you knew?

DavidI 09-28-2006 08:28 PM

I think it is a good investment.

David

HardDrive 09-28-2006 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77


If I was to offer you 1million to kill a child rapest would you do it? I bet you would provided you figued out a way to do it and not get caught but what if I offered you $100,000? Would you still? How about $10,000? $1,000? $100?

Would you kill anybody for $10Million? Thats a lot of chink!!! Think about it...

Think about what? Show me a child rapist, and I'll buy my own bullets. It is only the fear of prison that keeps folks from murdering child molesters on the spot. Me included. I am a pretty empathetic person, but I cannot imagine feeling an ounce of remorse over killing a child molester.

fintstone 09-28-2006 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
I bet you would provided you figued out a way to do it and not get caught but what if I offered you $100,000? Would you still? How about $10,000? $1,000? $100?...
Under those conditions I would pay the $10K just to get to do it.

tabs 09-29-2006 01:18 AM

Speaking for the ACLU, U would be violating the alleged Kiddy Rapists rights...after all he is a victim here to, as he was absued as a child himself. And he deserves a trial by jury as does every other person accused of a crime.

M.D. Holloway 09-29-2006 08:13 AM

Well, what he wasn't a child rapest, what if he just beat the ***** out of your 26 year old Daughter?

What I am getting at is what amount of money would you take to snuff someone and what would that person have to have done?

Anybody - $10,000,000
Family Enemy - $100,000
Rapest - $10,000
Child Rapest - no charge

nostatic 09-29-2006 08:30 AM

karma baby. The universe will sort it out.


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