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nostatic 10-01-2006 06:20 PM

kick in the face: wtf?
 
Another reason I no longer really follow most pro sports:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2609563

He should be put in jail...

25 stiches to close 7 wounds. Luckily the eye wasn't involved.

legion 10-01-2006 06:22 PM

When all they recieve on the field is a wink and a slap on the wrist, it's no wonder they think the criminal justice will do the same. Oh wait, it does.

pwd72s 10-01-2006 07:24 PM

I believe the NFL is going to deliver more than a slap on the wrist on this one. We'll see.

M.D. Holloway 10-01-2006 07:56 PM

ya, he'll get fine and suspension for a few.

pwd72s 10-01-2006 07:58 PM

Also, NASCAR isn't the only televised sport that has some "payback"....

dd74 10-01-2006 08:29 PM

C'mon. You guys act like you've never been frustrated at work. :rolleyes:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player?statsId=5901
Haynesworth is worth every penny of cleat...

tabs 10-02-2006 12:45 AM

Come on these guyz are AMERICAN HEROS, they can rape, murder, sodomize and they get a free pass. They have been pampered nearly there entire lives, after all winning is the name of the game and second place means your nothing but a loser.

widgeon13 10-02-2006 04:51 AM

Guy should be brought up on criminal charges. I don't know what it is that makes an attack such as this inside the confines of a stadium or a race track seem to go without notice of the legal system. This is assault, it's a felony and should be prosecuted by the district attorney.

It's not even agravated, shlt, the guy was on the ground with his helmet off. How ******* stupid can that idiot be to do this in front of 100,000 spectators and think it would go unnoticed.

Cris Collingworth said it on network tv last night, the guy should be prosecuted. He'll get slapped with some measily shlta$$ fine and be back out there next Sunday, kicking the shlt out of somebody else.

Great example for all our kids to see this on national tv and then have no implications. People must be held accountable for their actions, no matter what there position in life. This is a good example of why congressman write dirty emails to pages and kids shoot classmates in schools, no friggin accountability.

The sooner we start to address these blatant examples of unacceptable behavior in society, the sooner we will see some change in behavior in our schools and public officials. All these fuchers think they are above the law.

JeremyD 10-02-2006 05:00 AM

His year should be done - in fact he should be banned from the NFL - Disgusting - the coach should have sent him packing.

85eurocarrera 10-02-2006 06:03 AM

From what I know of Jeff Fisher, which isn't much, I think he is a stand up guy. I believe he played in the NFL, as a D back (Da Bears mabey?) and isn't going to let this slide.

I am amazed at how these guys can go at it all game long and end up hugging, shaking hands and all after the game. Most of NFL players seem like good sports. Haynesworth.....NOT!

Nathans_Dad 10-02-2006 06:03 AM

If they do anything but suspend him for the year, I'll be pissed. I was watching that game and immediately after it happened (before they knew he had kicked him in the face), they showed a closeup of Gurode on this hands and knees on the field. He had blood simply dripping off his face. You couldn't quite tell it was blood at first, I thought he was just sweaty as hell, but then once they showed the replay I thought "man those metal cleats can do some damage, I bet that was blood dripping from his face".

Worst thing I have seen in pro football.

85eurocarrera 10-02-2006 06:05 AM

Oh, and I think hockey has a lot more cheap shots than football.

rammstein 10-02-2006 08:37 AM

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:eek:

widebody911 10-02-2006 08:42 AM

The longer people worship these guys, the more outrageous this crap will get.

rammstein 10-02-2006 08:43 AM

Apparently he barely got away with this one:

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/TEN/9435285

As for hockey, the fist-fighting is cool as both parties generally engage. And I think on some of the horrible cheap shots in hockey (stick to the face type stuff) they have levied criminal charges.

I'm not a big football fan, but I like the game. Fist-fights, shoving, pushing, etc is all part of the game IMO. The face-stomping is seriously messed up. Why let him ever play again?

sammyg2 10-02-2006 11:17 AM

If I were in charge (which I am not) he would never play in the NFL again and I would go after every penny he has already made.

Let's see how much money he can make and how much he can get away with when he's a janitor.

JeremyD 10-02-2006 11:25 AM

I'm with you Sammy -

Noah930 10-02-2006 01:04 PM

Even if the NFL doesn't do squat, Gurode (and the Cowboys) should take the matter in their own hands. Since this is a world in which the only that's respected is money, simply have Gurode claim his vision is permanently blurry (or he's got chronic headaches), and sue Haynesworth for all future earnings Gurode would have otherwise made, plus the financial damages the Cowboys have incurred by losing a player of Gurode's capability. If Haynesworth thinks something like having to pay alimony stinks, wait till he gets the opportunity to pay an entire career's-worth of salary for a fellow professional football player.

Porsche-O-Phile 10-02-2006 01:31 PM

He should've just bit his ear off. Sheesh, don't these guys learn anything?

Tobra 10-02-2006 02:26 PM

He should go to jail, lose his his job, his house and any money or valuables he has accumulated

on-ramp 10-02-2006 02:36 PM

if it wasn't for football, some of these pigs would be behind bars.

remember that lunatic Ramonwaski from the Broncos...one game , at the bottom of a pile, he intentionally broke someone's finger.
they let him continue play..

:rolleyes:

rammstein 10-02-2006 03:17 PM

NEW YORK (Oct. 2, 2006) -- Albert Haynesworth of the Tennessee Titans has been suspended without pay for five games for flagrant unnecessary roughness against Andre Gurode of the Dallas Cowboys in Sunday's Cowboys-Titans game in Nashville, the league announced.


This is the longest suspension in NFL history.

on-ramp 10-02-2006 03:20 PM

so he gets a 5 week vacation. ha ha.

great punishment.

Jeff Higgins 10-02-2006 03:45 PM

Why don't folks just quit watching this crap? I gave up on pro sports the day my oldest, then about three, was sitting next to me on the couch watching some b-ball. Barkley's face filled the screen as he very clearly hollared "fuch you" at a fan. Grab remote, turn off tube, never go back. It's done nothing but get worse. This hood should never play the game again. Add him to the growing list of dozens, across all pro sports, that share that distinction.

Porsche-O-Phile 10-02-2006 03:47 PM

Ridiculous. That's practically an incentive.

Should have been permanently un-invited from the NFL.

rammstein 10-02-2006 03:53 PM

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widgeon13 10-02-2006 03:59 PM

Why is it that the local DA is not filing felony assault charges, what is wrong with our syytem that precludes this from happening. I just don't understand the difference in circumstances between the stadium turf and the turf of some dark alley in some city across this country. Can someone give me an explanation of what the difference is?

David 10-02-2006 04:44 PM

I believe their pay is divided up by games, so if he got a 5 game suspension that's a pretty hefty fine.

JeremyD 10-02-2006 05:24 PM

In theory $203,125 in fines for missing five games. He should be gone for the season.

nostatic 10-02-2006 05:36 PM

It isn't about the money. It's about the game and if there is any shred of sportsmanship left (stupid question I know). Minimum should have been a full season suspension. And the team should let him go. This is all part of the decay of American society...with sports leading the charge down the toilet.

Oracle 10-02-2006 07:20 PM

If you follow Hockey you'd heard about Bertuzzi how he hit a player causing injuries that have finished the others career.. did I mention Bertuzi hit it from behind with his fist breaking something in the neck?
You gotta see that slap on the hand from the NHL... That was a joke.

dd74 10-02-2006 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
It isn't about the money. It's about the game and if there is any shred of sportsmanship left (stupid question I know). Minimum should have been a full season suspension. And the team should let him go. This is all part of the decay of American society...with sports leading the charge down the toilet.
Todd, you're just wrong. You're looking at one isolated incident, and issuing grandiose claims that as it is sports related, it is leading the way down the toilet.

I imagine you didn't happen to see the first New Orleans Saints game in the Superdome since Hurricane Katrina, and how that, for what it was worth, boosted the morale quite exponentially throughout the city, particularly as the Saints won.

I imagine you might not be familiar with the millions of $$$s players of this caliber donate to charities.

I imagine you might not be familiar with the fabric of positive society these players weave, particularly for disenfranchised youth.

I hardly call any of that the decay leading the charge down the toilet.

What instead leads the charge down the toilet, in my estimation, are grose and ignorant generalizations.

nostatic 10-02-2006 10:18 PM

ha. spoken like a true pro sports kool aid drinker. There are a handful of positive role models that do good works. Most of them are over-paid thugs who give "disenfranchised youth" pipe dreams, 99.9% of which end poorly.

But you'll believe what you want. As will I. I've quit watching most pro sports because it ain't like it used to be. Guys used to play for the love and honor of the game. Now it is about money, money, and money. College too.

Noah930 10-03-2006 04:48 AM

My own personal litmus test: I don't particularly care about sports where it appears that the people in the stands care more about the outcome of the game, than the players on the field. I realize this is one of those sweeping generalizations you hate, dd74. But heck, the guy with the ball should care more about who wins, than the little kid decked out in a replica jersey watching him.

widebody911 10-03-2006 06:14 AM

An interesting view of the American psyche is the difference in reaction to a guy getting his face kicked in on the field, and to that of some old hag's nipple getting exposed for 3ns.

nostatic 10-03-2006 07:35 AM

one word: Rollerball

Moneyguy1 10-03-2006 08:59 AM

Some sports are more violent than others. Isn't it interesting that boxing matches generally end with the combatants talking together and sometimes during the bout even giving a little gesture of respect like touching gloves at the beginning of a round?

The more contact in the sport, the more likely that intentional harm will be done. Football and Hockey both come to mind while baseball is a far in the distance, despite the occasional melee.

Fact is, the "sport" has gone out of professional sports.

dd74 10-03-2006 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
ha. spoken like a true pro sports kool aid drinker. There are a handful of positive role models that do good works. Most of them are over-paid thugs who give "disenfranchised youth" pipe dreams, 99.9% of which end poorly.

But you'll believe what you want. As will I. I've quit watching most pro sports because it ain't like it used to be. Guys used to play for the love and honor of the game. Now it is about money, money, and money. College too.

A handful? How would you know? You don't "watch" sports programming (as you claim above), where many of these "handful" of professionals either give PSAs about, or are noted by announcers as to their community tidings.

Unless you're just attempting to be contentious, if you believe what you're writing, you really have no clue about what you're talking about. 99.9%? Is that factual?

Seriously, you manifest off poorly-found, societal generalizations. Simply because of your refusal to watch pro sports, makes your claims groundless.

One sport I've seen you support, which is cycling, is steeped in cheating, thuggery and the resulting societal fallout of both to those who follow the sport - so let's not fail to cast our aspersions there.

Third, with you being a supporter of F1, I'm certain you also need to take into account the unsportsman-like conduct of certain racers, like Schumacher, who of late, has been cited for knocking other drivers off the race course. You better save a rock to throw that direction as well.

Whether a kick in the face, a tap of tire that causes a loss of life at close to 200 mph, or a shoulder knock that makes a rider fall down a side of the Pyrenees Mountains...your ideal of thuggery is pervasive in nearly every sport.

Even Olympic figure skating if you recall the Tonya Harding situation, has its brutality. Oh yeah, and when those or any Olympiad goes pro, they're also usually paid millions, which, I imagine, must equate to "overpaid."

widebody911 10-03-2006 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dd74
A handful? How would you know? You don't "watch" sports programming (as you claim above), where many of these "handful" of professionals either give PSAs about, or are noted by announcers as to their community tidings.

And how many of those are conditions of their parole?

dd74 10-03-2006 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic

I've quit watching most pro sports because it ain't like it used to be. Guys used to play for the love and honor of the game. Now it is about money, money, and money. College too.

That's like saying "I quit watching the news because reporters don't like reporting the news anymore, but are there for the notoriety of being seen on TV."

Another generalization...


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