Observation on bias

Moneyguy1 · 10-31-2006, 07:29 AM

Recent posts have made me think (and it hurts, to quote Yosemite Sam).....

Why are so many people convinced that their view is absolutely correct and anyone who does not believe the same way are somehow flawed? Could this aspect of humanity be its ultimate downfall?

legion · 10-31-2006, 07:43 AM

You are dead wrong.

We are all open to discussion and the adoption of new ideas.

IROC · IROC's Garage

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Why are so many people convinced that their view is absolutely correct and anyone who does not believe the same way are somehow flawed? Could this aspect of humanity be its ultimate downfall?

I think this is one of the most fascinating things about people and one of the things that draws me to PPOT. Some people can believe so strongly in something that others totally discount. Why is that? They both can't be right. Extremely interesting. I think that's why religious threads are so prevalent. Both sides can't be right, yet both sides are convinced that they are correct. I love it.

Mike

stevepaa · 10-31-2006, 07:52 AM

actually I think it is just the fringe that think they have ownership on the right ideas

Unfortunately some of them become president.

lendaddy · 10-31-2006, 07:56 AM

Ask Rodeo

Jim Richards · 10-31-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Ask Rodeo

...and his alter-ego lendaddy.

You two guys are like the Bell brothers, Ding and Dong.

Moneyguy1 · 10-31-2006, 08:06 AM

+1 (at least)

dhoward · dhoward's Garage

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
...and his alter-ego lendaddy.

You two guys are like the Bell brothers, Ding and Dong.

Is somebody at the door?

Rodeo · 10-31-2006, 08:34 AM

I am absolutely convinced that GWB has been bad for my country.

Under Bob's analysis, that apparently makes me "biased."

I am not a radical person, but when you oppose a radical administration, it makes you appear so, since you constantly disagree with their radical positions.

lendaddy · 10-31-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
I am absolutely convinced that GWB has been bad for my country.

Under Bob's analysis, that apparently makes me "biased."

I am not a radical person, but when you oppose a radical administration, it makes you appear so, since you constantly disagree with their radical positions.

Yes, you are viewed here as the voice of reason.

ding er...dong...whatever

Rodeo · 10-31-2006, 08:51 AM

These are unreasonable times daddy. In historical context, I am pretty much dead center.

Rodeo · 10-31-2006, 08:53 AM

I know on this board, for instance, that opposing warrantless spying on Americans is considered "far left," but I also know that when the country returns to normal, that position will be viewed as a prefectly normal, even conservative viewpoint.

lendaddy · 10-31-2006, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
These are unreasonable times daddy. In historical context, I am pretty much dead center.

Oh yes, absolutely.

Dong....

lendaddy · 10-31-2006, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
I know on this board, for instance, that opposing warrantless spying on Americans is considered "far left," but I also know that when the country returns to normal, that position will be viewed as a perfectly normal, even conservative viewpoint.

That's not at all the argument and you know it. The question is one of wartime surveillance of enemy calls to/from our country. This is not even remotely close to the tipping point you paint it to be.

Level-headed people understand this, and your irrational response is what makes you extreme. The fact that you don't even accurately summarize the dispute makes you extreme..... your amazingly generous helpings of unwarranted drama and hyperbole make you extreme....

dong

Rodeo · 10-31-2006, 08:59 AM

The issue is warrantless spying on Americans, exactly as I have framed it.

lendaddy · 09:03 AM

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The issue is warrantless spying on Americans, exactly as I have framed it.

Thanks for making my point.

The way you describe it a person must worry about all their calls being listened in on. That's not the case at all, not even close...but that's the way you present it for effect. You don't even try to have honest debate.

I would also note that your statement above leads the reader to believe that the target of the spying is the American citizen, which is not the case at all. Misleading is the name of the game.

cool_chick · 10-31-2006, 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
That's not at all the argument and you know it. The question is one of wartime surveillance of enemy calls to/from our country. This is not even remotely close to the tipping point you paint it to be.

Level-headed people understand this, and your irrational response is what makes you extreme. The fact that you don't even accurately summarize the dispute makes you extreme..... your amazingly generous helpings of unwarranted drama and hyperbole make you extreme....

dong

That's such bull. The WHOLE ISSUE is WARRANTLESS and you KNOW IT......

Jim Richards · 10-31-2006, 09:05 AM

Ding, Dong? You fellas gonna be needin' a room?

lendaddy · 10-31-2006, 09:07 AM

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That's such bull. The WHOLE ISSUE is WARRANTLESS and you KNOW IT......

I think you posted in the wrong thread. Were you arguing with someone about warrants? A mod can move your post.

lendaddy · 10-31-2006, 09:11 AM

OK, coolie, I know I'm going to regret this......but, should initating a call to or receiving a call from an overseas terrorist be grounds for a warrant?