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masraum 10-31-2006 08:53 AM

what sort of benefits do you get at work
 
I may be changing jobs. At first glance it would seem like a no brainer, the new job is nearly a $20k increase in salary, but when you compare the benefits the difference is less than $5k which is not enough to leave a good job.

My current job pays my cell bill (I don't even get the bill) since I'm on call (but only 2 weeks out of every 8), pays my dsl (I expense it every month), has a decent matching/vesting policy for 401k, pays me a couple hundred extra per week when I'm on call, pays a yearly bonus, decent/average medical ins, and pays for a certain amount of college per year.

The new company doesn't yet match on the 401k, will pay some school (don't know the specifics), doesn't pay cell or dsl, costs $680 per month for family medical ins (as opposed to $250), doesn't have a bonus for my position. They just got some new investors who are bailing them out of almost bankruptcy. If I can get another 3500 on top of what I expect them to offer it will just be worth considering.

So, I'm curious what sort of benefits you fellas get out of curiousity.

stevepaa 10-31-2006 09:11 AM

I'd stay where you are. Bonus?? That must be the turkey we got 12 years ago for Thanksgiving.

notfarnow 10-31-2006 09:15 AM

roughly 10% bonus/yr based on personal & company objectives
Company stock purchase plan topped up 25%
pension plan
medical/dental for spouse & dependants
very generous bereavement & parental leave
3 weeks vacation + stat holidays
Cell
40% cost of phone & high-speed connection
personal education up to ~ 1k/yr

Benefits are great, but salary isn't smokin'. No complaints though, cost of living is very inexpensive here.

cantdrv55 10-31-2006 09:21 AM

DSL, cell phone, office phone equipment and service - free

Matching 401K

Pension plan

Company stock purchase at a 10% discount - ESPP

Company car, gas, insurance, maintenance - $40/mo off my paycheck plus my wife and I can drive it for business and personal trips

Tuition reimbursement all the way to PhD

I work independently - my boss lives in OR and I am in CA

Expense acct

Medical/Dental/Vision ain't cheap though plus copay is $15 for office visits and $20 for prescriptions

Generous bonuses and commissions monthly/quarterly/annually

Base pay could be better

id10t 10-31-2006 09:34 AM

about 2 days off vacation per month, plus when the college is closed, with pay (2-3 weeks around xmas, spring break, 3 and 4 day weekends). Health is free for me, extra 300/mo to add my wife and 2 kids (wife alone was 250/mo extra), free classes for me, my wife, and my kids when they are old enough. Raises have been 3-4.5% per year.

rick-l 10-31-2006 09:59 AM

I have air conditioning all summer.

masraum 10-31-2006 11:12 AM

sounds like some of you get pretty good benefits. Seems the range is all over the place.

M.D. Holloway 10-31-2006 11:25 AM

paid

azasadny 10-31-2006 11:26 AM

My salary is very generous, benefits are cut to the bone and medical/prescription drug coverage is almost nonexistent. I get a company car at a subsidized rate and by March many of us will be cut. Oh well, I really wanted to enter the IT job market again... Not!

charleskieffner 10-31-2006 11:33 AM

i get to show up!

Porsche-O-Phile 10-31-2006 11:40 AM

Where I am now:

- 160 hours PTO per year (breaks down to 4 weeks paid time off)
- 401k (employee contribution only though)
- Profit sharing (once you've been here three years, not there yet)
- Medical/dental/vision
- Optional HSA (I do it)
- Optional short-term disability insurance (I get it)
- Optional life insurance (I get it)

Where I'm going (probably starting at a new place Monday):
- 2 weeks paid vacation per year
- Week between Christmas & New Year's off every year
- Medical/dental/vision
- 401k (employee contribution only)

Better salary and no more commuting through downtown L.A. = priceless. Plus the work is going to be a lot more interesting.

BlueSkyJaunte 10-31-2006 12:05 PM

You guys are lucky; all I get is GERD, lower back pain, and swivel-chair spread.

masraum 10-31-2006 12:10 PM

Wow, sounds like my current 401k kicks butt. They match 50% of employee contribution up to 8% of salary and you vest 25% per year starting when you get hired. So the company matching for me is up to a couple grand a year. I've been here 2.5 years so far so I'm 50% vested. If I make it to March I'll be 75% vested.

Drago 10-31-2006 12:10 PM

None unless you want to count paid holidays.

widebody911 10-31-2006 12:15 PM

Free use of the restrooms; that's about it.

masraum 10-31-2006 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by widebody911
Free use of the restrooms; that's about it.
Yeah, but aren't you contract? In my experience contract means that you make 25%-50% more than a perm employee.

masraum 10-31-2006 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 930addict


The down side is that my boss makes me so miserable that I'm planning on leaving. Am I crazy? I think it's better to be happy then to be "rich".

I don't think you're crazy, I think you're absolutely right, regardless of what your benefits are if your job/boss makes you miserable it's time to go. No point working there until you the stress makes you unhealthy so you can't enjoy the rest of your life. Bangin' benefits though, wow.

NICKG 10-31-2006 01:00 PM

i get health insurance for my cats....

vash 10-31-2006 01:07 PM

i get paid....pretty much until i die.

dmcummins 10-31-2006 01:15 PM

Three weeks vacation and normal Holidays
sick leave is generous
401k with company matching up to 6% of salary
Vehicle allowance and all gas and maintenance
medical for me, I have to pay extra for the wife
cell, dsl, laptop
very generous yearly bonus ( so far anyway)

I also got the following perks .

Played in 5 golf outings
Played in a Pro Am ( John Deere Classic)
Went duck hunting for 3 days out of State. Guide, cook, the works
Went to several sporting events, baseball, football, and Hockey, even got World Series tickets from the boss.
There is always a conference in Vegas.

I have worked here for 15 years.

svandamme 10-31-2006 01:17 PM

i get the benefit of the doubt

Superman 10-31-2006 04:13 PM

I wanna work where 930addict works.

Steve, being a "labor" guy, you might guess that I'm not impressed by companies who do not take advantage of the opportunity to provide benefits to you at substantially less cost than you will have to pay to buy them. And they are, for the most part, not subject to payroll taxes, so they can actually save the company money. What this says to me is "you're on your own."

The difference in pay, in this instance, is nowhere near what I would require in order to quit a good job with good benefits. I like working for good companies that understand value and understand the importance of having a talented staff and proper equipment, and attend to those important details. Like benefits. I don't like working for short-sighted companies that think everyone can be replaced and are guessing that their newest business idea just HAS to work. I'll do it, but I'll consider it a short-term consulting position and my fee would reflect that.

masraum 10-31-2006 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superman
I wanna work where 930addict works.

Steve, being a "labor" guy, you might guess that I'm not impressed by companies who do not take advantage of the opportunity to provide benefits to you at substantially less cost than you will have to pay to buy them. And they are, for the most part, not subject to payroll taxes, so they can actually save the company money. What this says to me is "you're on your own."

The difference in pay, in this instance, is nowhere near what I would require in order to quit a good job with good benefits. I like working for good companies that understand value and understand the importance of having a talented staff and proper equipment, and attend to those important details. Like benefits. I don't like working for short-sighted companies that think everyone can be replaced and are guessing that their newest business idea just HAS to work. I'll do it, but I'll consider it a short-term consulting position and my fee would reflect that.

Good point, thanks.

krichard 10-31-2006 08:21 PM

4 weeks vacation
3% matching 401k
profit sharing
very good bonus plan based on performance (over 30%base this year)
medical and dental
cell phone
business class on international flights
home pc and laptop
$7500/yr tuition reimbursment

nightheart 10-31-2006 08:39 PM

My job allows me to appreciate the fact that I spend more than 10 cents a roll on toilet paper. Nothing like that end of the day feeling where you have to decide if you want to wait to you get home, or risk a sore butt.

My collar is pretty blue, but the benefits are pretty good.

about 3 weeks vacation a year, with days added for every year after 5.
50 percent match on 401k
100 dollars a month for dental, vision, and health insurance for a whole family, no limits on kids.
profit sharing after ten years (thats a joke, since most profit is put back into the company for expansion)

benefits are good, pay is ok for someone with no college degree, but the turn over rate is high. something like 3 percent of new hires stay for more than 6 months.

slodave 10-31-2006 09:54 PM

Nothing, but I do show up late every day :)

mikester 10-31-2006 10:05 PM

I recently change jobs myself and they "pay" wasn't that different but the benefits made the difference.

The medical at Job #1 was for me alone and they would only provide benefits for my spouse if I could provide documentation stating that her employer did not offer them. I could of course get them for my offspring. Those medical benefits were so so at best but cheap, I only paid $20 and not much more for my wife and kid if I added them (with proper documentation). The problem was that none of the Dr's we'd had for my wife and my kid took the plan. So, we were kind of a$$'d out on with out of network costs.

The only offered $500 a year in tuition reimbursement and every time I submitted something it was denied. Not only is a paltry $500 insulting considering the cost of any local college course but to DENY every attempt at that?!! pffffft!

No bonuses for my particular department but other departments, even other teams in our department received upwards of 20%. We're the network team, you're a high-end revenue generating website.

Incentive me please.

3 weeks vacation (not bad) plus 2 personal days.

Highly alcholic environment; There is no doubt that my director was an alcholic. The company as a rule was throwing drinking parties on a monthly basis. Now, if I were still in my 20s that'd be cool I suppose but even then it wasn't that cool to me.

What else is there...heck I don't even know...Flexibleish working hours mainly because I had to work late night hours on the network to fix it when it needed fixing (which was often because the previous guy didn't understand what a broadcast domain was).

The new company; much larger multinational deal. No cap on tuition reimbursement and they have approved every request. That alone was a driving factor in the move. They did offer me more pay but only around $4000 more (only he says, who the f am I anyway?!). the benefits cost more but I can use them at all of my Doctors so they probably break even on me or save me a little.

3 weeks vacation, 1 personal day, comp time because I'm a network guy. So far I've taken a week off in the first 3 months and not touched a day of vacation. I've scheduled another 3 days during the thanksgiving week and again, not touching my vacation. Of course I am working that time off doing things in normally off hours as required (comp time remember?) but that time really isn't tracked.

I can also telecommute as needed in the new position, the old position was of the opinion that if I wasn't at my desk I wasn't working. Lame.

Of course the new job is less than 5 miles from home too so that didn't hurt (la traffic sucks eh?).

Anyway...stay where you are man.

Sonic dB 10-31-2006 10:17 PM

Being in Sales, every expense is paid. I get $3800 monthly as an expense account which covers everything including travel, office expenses, the 993 and gas. Medical/dental benefits are free, 401k is included.

I am also getting salary, commissions and a monthly draw if needed.

this is a new job, the last job was very similar and paid very very well. I might not make that much with this job...but surely it will be less stressful and less hours...i left the previous job on my own accord in part because the hours were ridiculous and i started my own company.

Anyway, sales is the way to go if you want free stuff, preferrable in an industry related to health care.

Vipergrün 10-31-2006 11:23 PM

I work for a large corporation, the "company that holds all knowledge"

Here's my breakdown;

Salary is decent for what I do, but it's a job, not a career
~3 weeks vacation
un-tracked sick time
bonus structure, only the same guys get them every year.
8 holidays
5K tuition reimbursement
Cell and DSL reimbursement
3% matching of 401K up to 'x' dollars
The kicker? $930.00 per month for medical, dental, vision, ADD, legal. The plans are ok, but not worth those kind of bucks


I just went thru two rounds of interviews for an (out of state) IT Director position, which I am really jonesing for, meaning I probably won't get it :)

livi 11-01-2006 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
i get the benefit of the doubt
:D :D

I get to prescribe my own drugs ! Very cost effective.

Lothar 11-01-2006 06:20 AM

none.

I'm self employed. That's benefit enough, not workin' for "The Man".

Tobra 11-01-2006 07:32 AM

I am self employed in California.

I get the benefit of paying more taxes and working harder than most for the priviledge

cantdrv55 11-01-2006 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sonic dB

Anyway, sales is the way to go if you want free stuff, preferrable in an industry related to health care.

I couldn't agree more except to add, consultative sales rather than retail sales.

Sonic dB 11-01-2006 11:35 PM

exactly b to b


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