There are mine...I actually maintain them...these are my babies...
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Re: Staggerwing!
 

N-number : N44562
Aircraft Serial Number : 6923
Aircraft Manufacturer : BEECH
Model : D17S
Engine Manufacturer : P&W
Model : R-985 SERIES
Aircraft Year : 1944
Owner Name : GARNREITER MICHAEL
Owner Address : 8600 N CABALLO CIR
PARADISE VALLEY, AZ, 85253-2730

PV is in the Phoenix area. No idea which airport its based at.

It's an old pic, nearly 10 years i think, but it was when I was flying air freight in old 20 and 30-series lears out of detroit and later el paso. in the pic i had stopped in little rock for fuel and was getting to see family i hadn't seen in nearly a year. i think this was a lear-24. my co-pilot was probably snoozing. we napped every chance we could get in those days.
ryan
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my bad..this was actually a lear-23...serial number 16! you kept up with how much fuel you had with your watch if you wanted 'accuracy', but boy the old turbojets were a blast to fly! :)
ryan

Was going to say, thats not a 24 model with that bullet nose horiz stab. Earliest I ever flew was 23-008, the one now in the Pima Air Museum and those early birds were rocket ships.

Primary flight gauge was the airspeed in front of you and the fuel gauge on the center console. At full power you were guzzling 10,000 pounds an hour PER ENGINE. BTW, the plane only held 5000 some pounds of fuel... so you were always yelling for a climb to high power to save fuel.

Remember them well. Have almost 3000 hours in the 20 series birds...

got me by a single serial number, joe. i flew lear 23-009. :) Sounds like we came from the same mold, joe...thousands of hours in the 20's and 30's, too..nothing like 'em. remember the old learjet 'salute'? taxi up to an fbo and the ground crew and anyone else would be standing with both fingers in their ears.. ;)
ryan

I had the privilege to have flown in this exact plane with the late Paul Morgan when I worked for him a few years back. It was a truly awesome experience, and something I will NEVER forget!

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Paul was unfortunately killed in his Hawker Sea Fury a few years ago - he was a genuinely great guy.

My plane looks just like this one...

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My Dad has one of these...

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..does that count?

Joe, are you kiddin' me?! 10,000 pph per engine for those tiny things?! Wow is all I can say.

The Embraer 145 I fly burns about 3,500 pph per engine (give or take) at max takeoff thrust at sea level and makes three times the thrust, I believe.

Joe,
Yep, that would be the former family bird. I can't tell you how many hours I spent in that airplane.

Yeah, Lear 24's are *****in' hot. We had a 24XD for a short time - really hot (and loud). I just love those old Lears - almost a fighter plane fitted for civilians.

Another pic... Flew Crazy Horse a couple of years ago.
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Awesome experience...

scott, yeah that's at full power only though. old turbojets with no bypass..basically big 'l bottle rockets.. ;) enough thrust to let you go vertical for a couple seconds before compressor knockin' and overtemps getcha lowerin' the nose. i'd life off, call for gear and flaps up and just let it accelerate in groud effect until the last secon on long runways out west at night where you'd get initial clearances well over 10,000 feet. you could hit 300 kts before pulling at salinas! controllers would be asking for your altitude the whole time you're barreling upwards like a bat outa hell..never said freight dogs were sharp knives. ;) at least you get to feel like a space shuttle commander for a few seconds! :)
ryan

That's a great story on freight dogs flying the old -24's. I have a T6 buddy of mine that flew them also. Several years ago, we put together a flight of nine sixes flying on a Lear 25 - four on each wing and one in the slot. Yeah, I know, we are nuts. Got some great video though. They bolted after lunch and did some Lear acro after lunch. And I thought we were nuts... ;)

:eek: :eek: :D :D

YeeHaw!! Sounds like fun Ryan.

"Learjet (old)...there is no substitute..." :cool:

You guys need to fly a Lear 60. Full digital controls, so on takeoff you advance the throttles to the third of three clicks and let go, the FADEC computers take care of everything else. I have personally seen 14,000 feet per minute climb rate on this airplane, its a monster.

Same wheels and brakes as the old 20 series, so you need at least 5000 feet on landing, otherwise a very sweet bird.

Aerkuld - are you a B2 pilot?

joe..no type or time in the 60. i do recall that our old vsi's only went up to 10,000 fpm and they would peg. i'm still a masochist for old equipment. ;)
ryan

I have had a B2, but that is a Zagi. I haven't flown it for a little while. I used to fly it at Turtle Rock (south Orange County) when I was in CA, but there aren't many hills round here. In case this isn't making much sense, it's a slope glider and needs a good hill with a reliable up-draft to stay airborne. I see it as something of a challenge to keep an R/C glider in the air for any length of time. You get some interesting company too...

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Not my photo, but it was fairly normal for the plane to be intercepted and checked out by hawks.

I have a conventional 6ft span electric assisted glider too, but I need to rescue it from the clutches of the ex.

A little helo love:

On Deck

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From Above

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Dicking Around

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I only have about a 100 hours in this, the CH-53E...huge aircraft, like flying your house from the bathroom!

Very agile in the air.

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Aerkuld - I've seen similar flying around San Clemente.