What drugs did you experiment with?
 

You all know you've experimented in your day. So cough up some stories or experiences from your wild college days or so on. Please non-alcoholic stories only.
If you wish -Whyd u do it, and whyd u stop? and so on

(I dont want this thread to be turned into a lecture on drugs, We all know they're bad--so if you wish start your own thread about it)

and dont be embarressed ;)

Ahh, pot, 'shrooms, acid, coke, speed. Coke and speed were not for me. Could not stand being wired like that for so long. The hallucinogens were fun for a bit in college. I did more 'shrooms than acid - I think. I remember most of the trips. Great drives in rural Billings, Montana, good times walking around in San Louis Obispo, Ca.

One time in SLO, three of us were shrooming at the local park at night and I noticed a square pit. I pushed the weird feeling material and thought that it might be quicksand. It felt really weird. After a bit, I called my friends over and we all started poking at it. Turns out to be a horse shoe pit. They used old carpet padding and had covered it with burlap. We were there after the sprinklers had soaked everything. The foam soaks up quite a bit of water, making it very squishy... Later we found ourselves staring at a chain-link fence........ Don't ask.

Dave

Ive heard that acid stays in your spine your whole life and because of this randomly at any time later in your life you could have an acid flashback, have you had one yet?

LOL!!! They also say that if you have done acid more than 7 times, you are legally insane. No flashbacks, just memories.

Dave

lsd-25 dissolves in water, degrades from light and breaks down from heat...

so no.. it will actually be out of your metabolism while you're still trippin'


Acid flashbacks considered to be/ possibly are, a form of post traumatic stress... i used to have em, it's not the big deal really , just a short moment where things look weird, and you snap out of it, bit like daydreaming... not that intense, and it's not that they sneak up on you years after the trip , it's mostly within a short time span after...

other untrue myths :
strychnine laced acid, the minute amounts (micrograms) of lsd, even if it were strychine wouldn't even make you sick

changes dna (if true dr Hoffmann wouldn't have made it to 100 last januari, or 101 this januari cancer free )

is deadly , one could OD ( it's in fact less toxic then asprine) so good luck on that, you might go coo-coo for a day , but die from it? unlikely


it will however eff you up if you are not mentally prepared for it in a good enviroment, especially the high , psychedelic (3-400 ug)doses


regarding the thread, i've tried pretty much everything, did some things recreationally longer then others, and then slowed down ,got bored with most of it... went to mushrooms, and then ultimately had one massive trip on acid ( i had some mild ones when i was a lot younger)where i didn't even know my name, rank, or species, and since then i've even quit smoking (and the psychedelic thing helped me cope with the cravings)...i'll still occasionally trip , but more in favor of the more mellow mushrooms , which are legal here...but i wouldn't rule out copping out again in the future , it's not your usual escape drug, it's closer to facing fears and digging/meditating in ones psyche... it's to intense to do it regulary, it's zero addiction, but it will warp yer mind, and IMHO it makes you want to improve life , not destroy it...

Hmmmmmm....not so sure what I want on the public record.

Ah......f*ck it :)

Lets see.....7 years of being a techno DJ in Detroit/Chicago....errrr...yeah. A few drugs have been taken.

Hallucinogens were far and away the best experiences, especially shrooms. Its the one drug that I would actually consider taking to this day. That being said, I have not taken any drugs other than alcohol in the past 10 years. Don't plan to.

DJing gave me access to ecstasy long before it became fashionable in the US. Its a nice drug, on that finds its roots in the pharmaceutical industry. Very enjoyable, manageable experience that does not leave a hangover. Its also relatively short, the effects are pretty much gone after 6-8 hours. And OH YEAH, you can dance your ass off when you are on it. For hours.

Not so sure how I feel about LSD. I took it. I learned from it. But I also feel like it took something away....innocence? Joy? I always felt like it cut everything open, and left you to pick up the mess. You could have a lot of fun, but it also caused to you poke into some of the dark areas of you life that were avoiding. Perhaps you SHOULD be examining those things, but acid was not the most pleasant vehicle for conducting exploration.

Marijuana....really just a cure for utter boredom.

Coke....I guess its fun at the moment, but WOW does it turn you into an a55hole. Really just dabeled in it because of friends.

Not sure how I feel about the whole thing.

I'm not proud of what I did, but I'm not ashamed either. I had some wonderful experiences. Really amazing stuff. Never really had what I would consider a 'bad' experience. I explored some dark corners with LSD, but in retrospect, those corners needed some light.....

nuf said.

never worked for me , E ruined my dancing moves, didn't give me much energy , and basically turned me in a cuddleb1tch more then anything else..

i used to take em and go to bed on em.. and i'm talking proper ones, i'm from Belgium , most E's are produced there, so no crap either...

Never tried any...

You mean today?

None. I had the advantage of growing up in a "rougher" area than most.

Drugs were not romanticized like they often are in lily-white suburban areas like I live in now (and on largely lily-white suburban internet boards like this one).

Seeing it first hand, I always associated drugs with losers. I wanted nothing to do with that scene, in fact did everything pretty much the opposite of it, to successfully escape from it.

I'd have to say my most enjoyable "experiment" was when I brought a sheet of acid to a buddy's bachelor party. Lost count of how much I ate & was giving it away to everyone.

Later that evening, I wondered into the garage where a small group had gathered & snapped off a base hit (not something I normally did, waste of money IMO), got a massive rush that lasted 8 or 9 hours. I never tried to replicate it.

I've been clean & sober for 10 years now & the only thing I ocassionaly miss is the occasional (yeah right) bong hit, but I'm already stupid & lazy enough, so I'll pass.

On a related note:

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+10 the.

Harddrive where did you DJ in Chicago? What name did you use?

I am on cough syrup. It´s legal, pretty harmless and I can prescribe it for myself at a very competitive price. ;)

Pot...quit when I figured out that in order to buy I was finding myself around people I didn't like being around. The "peace and love" days were gone, replaced with some pretty nasty dealers. Time to move on.

I found pot enjoyable. Truth be known, it was a lot easier to quit pot than it was to quit cigarettes.

Still, no real regrets that I quit. It was time...

Pot ain't that addictive, problem is at least in Europe, most potheads smoke it with tabacco ( because the pot here is a bit on the heavy side , damned those dutch genetically engineered pot growers), and as such the heavier potheads here do have problems quitting, because of all the nicotine that's in the joints...it's not the weed, it's purely the nicotine...

Can you define the word "Experiment"? Grass, shrooms, hash, LSD, coke, acid. Haven't done any of them in around two decades. Actually, I take that back, wifey and I smoked a little weed about a year ago.

That I'll believe...nicotine being addictive. BTW, I wish to clarify that my experience was decades ago...the strongest being bud from Hawaii. Evidently much stronger stuff out there now.

Only way I'd smoke again? Should I take a vacation in Amsterdam. ;)

The ultimate aphrodisiac. Truth. Unadulterated.

Lasted a week.

+1

At a certain point, you look around, and you don't like the people you see. Time to move on.....

I've never understood "Recreational" drug use.

I didn't like being doped up in the hospital after having some bones put back together. I can't stand it when my brain isn't working right. I'd rather feel the pain than be doped out of my mind.

everybody responds differently to different drugs
could be that the stuff in the hospital isn't your thing

just like some people get instantly hooked on heroine and never manage to kick it, and others , myself included, don't even like it much

i'm not advocating you go out and try more kinds, but chances are, there could be something that would knock you off your socks

or perhaps you allready have something but you don't even know it... do you skydive? are you one of those long distance runners? do you lift weights obsessively? alcohol? nicotine? sugar?? caffeine?

it's all in the same ball park, some are legal , some are not
some have a high addition potential across the population
some do not,

drugs aren't new either, the only difference now is that they have been criminalized in a big way, and that there is a global trade of uppers and downers.. and escapisme use ( i favour that term over "recreational")

the psychedelics however have been around since forever, sjamans, medicine men, etc the select few that used to be considered the wise men of the tribe or clan.. unlike the teetotalers that rage wars now, on a reputation of "clean as a whistle, i' m better now"
(not saying there never were any medicine men doing wars , Zulu's for instance ate mushrooms before battle, gave them an edge, just pointing out that this modern fear of anything mind expanding is a bit irrational)


i say the likes of Bush , Osama, and all the other war mongerers oughta drop a big hit of acid, guaranteed to knock some sense into those geezers... some respect for live, for the planet, for things and people who are different.... tolerance...

they don't have the balls to take a 10 hour trip...the fear of the unknown rules them to much...

DRUG USE WARNING:

Never use Illegal Drugs as a crutch or in anger or depression. It will tend to be used again and again and then too much.

This is dependency and is bad! Like 4 years of Bad and like could have had a used 993 turbo bad. It can ruin any chance of fun, recreational use in the future and can possibly ruin your life.

If you have to use, make sure you aren't in a bad mood.

all of them.

what do you want to know?

your experiences w/them

like what? Did I freak out? Did I die? Did I puke? Did they make me see god?

OK, here's my short advice:

pot. probably won't get into much trouble. don't drive high. don't be around jerks. pay for good pot...life is too short for buttweed.

coke. danger will robinson. gives you the impression that anything is possible. and takes away any of the time to accomplish any of it. some people can snort it and leave it. others can't quit and will be poor really quickly. smoking it is even worse with most people, but wasn't with me. go figure. important point here: how you react is very dependent on the individual, their biochemistry, and their environment and psyche.

crank/meth: just say no. like coke but with an edge that will push you over the edge. you feel ultra fast and high, but the low is abysmal. not worth the price of admission. move along..

angel dust (pcp): whack stuff. hard to get real stuff on the street. lots of weird mixtures of speed, etc instead of the real thing. leaves you pretty much incapacitated (at least me), but some get hyper violent. another one to avoid imho.

speed (black beauties, cross tops, etc): good if you want to stay awake or lose weight. bad if you get addicted to them. many progress from here to meth. use at your own risk.

downers (red, seconal, etc): don't drink with these or you might not wake up. don't drive. don't be depressed. slows you down real nice. depends on your personality

mushrooms: my favorite hallucingen. usually mild, about a 6 hour high. i liked to take them with a few (non-jerk) friends and go hiking in the hills. or play music. i did not like them at parties or crowded places. liked it less for the laughing/colors/trails/etc and more for the ability to get outside yourself and view your life situation from a bit of a 3rd party viewpoint.

acid: if it is good (we got some amazing L25 in santa cruz), it is like mushroom with a bit more of a kick and a bit longer lasting. if it is bad acid it sounds like your brain is frying...literally. had some purple pyramid that filled my ears with that sound. sucked. but good acid is a smooth takeoff, level at 10K feet, then a smooth down.

heroin: depends on the individual. luckily i didn't like it. my ex roomate did, and was an on-again/off-again user/addict. just made me puke and then not feel anything for about 10 hours. evidently smoking it is big in yuppie circles. smoking is *the* most efficient way to ingest any drug. be forewarned...the dragon does not discriminate and extracts a healthy toll

other pharma (vicodin, methaquaalone, valium, doriden, dilauded, etc): all fun if you know what you're doing. problem is once you're on them, you no longer know what you're doing. mixing alcohol makes it worse. 2 doriden sent me over the edge 23 years ago. end of my drug use.

need more detail? I got out of drugs before x came on the scene, but it is a speed variant, so i can imagine how it works. but again, it is dependent on the individual. bad acid trips happen to people who's minds are f*cked up...the acid just allows all the underlying stuff to bubble to the surface. my theory is that people who freak out on acid would freak out anyway given the right "non-drug" circumstances.

my advice? don't play unless you're ready to pay. i came out of a 5 year dance with the devil and won. most of my friends were not so lucky. many are dead. the rest are losers on the fringe of society. you wanna end up like that? party on francis...

I never used anything, not even smoked a cigarette. I have a sister who OD'd on heroin, PCP, and coke and was murdered, an aunt who OD'd on heroin and died, a cousin who ID'd on meth/coke and died, and an uncle who's purpose in life is to get more heroin. As I grew up, I saw firsthand the damage it did to those around the user. It was horrible. The real victims are not the person who uses the dope, it is those around the user.

David

Never touched any of it, and I am quite proud of myself for it. My friends all smoke pot and do shrooms, but I just stay away from it or tell them to take it someplace else. I have never smoked a cigarette in my life, but I occasionally smoke a good cigar every 3-4 months.

btw I am a freashmen in college. I am a rarity.

Everything - except pills.
Nothing was off-limits while I was in College. I even skin popped (as opposed to mainlining) heroin in a controlled experiment with a roommate from Hong Kong.
Truly a wonderful experience, but I don't have an addictive personality so there wasn't really the chance that I'd get too far into it.

I think I'm better for the experience, but wouldn't recommend that path for everyone.

The only thing that "stuck" was pot.
I don't smoke it now, well, very occasionally (Guinness and good Scotch are my current pleasure), but I find it quite agreeable and have no problem with those who partake.

Mescaline was the finest thing ever.
Light feel (as opposed to acid), but a wonderful hallucinogenic quality.

Too old for that crap now, but I'm thankful for all that I felt/experienced.
Altered reality can be a wonderful thing! :)

Lets not forget opium. Found that twice in college. Put it on top of a little green and let 'er rip. Made for a fast but intense high that was manageable. Problem is that you come down too soon and want to go back up. Heard it is hard to kick that habit once it takes hold. And it'll break the bank in the end.

Nostatic sums it up quite well, although I never touched heroin. I stopped when my roomate and I ate some bad shrooms and had a horrible night, each in our own way. He was found balled up in the corner of his closet crying. I was lying on my bed thinking my throat was falling apart. The evening statted out ok, but things turned when we both saw the t.v. melt.

I did notice that with both acid and shrooms, I could drink endless amounts of beer. Shrooms had me taking multiple showers and changing clothes while tripping. I was felt that I smelled of mushrooms and it drove me nuts.

Oh yeah, never did give up pot. I think the rules really need to be relaxed on this one. Besides, what does our Navy use for mooring rope....

Dave

Luden's Cough Drops.

I tried about all that was available in the late '60 & '70s, but wasn't impressed. Mostly felt it was a waste of time & just the popular thing everybody was into doing at the time. My roomates at the time frequently asked why I didn't get high with them. I always just said I had something else I had to do. They were usually too stoned to care.

I've never taken "recreational" (an odd term) drugs of any kind. I've never smoked and I've been truly "drunk" probably twice in my life. I don't like the feeling of being out of control in the least. Now I KNOW this is weird for most people, but getting "a buzz" even on a few beers or a few margaritas over dinner makes me feel, I don't know, odd. I am not holier than thou, I am just not like..well? You!

It isn't a pleasant feeling for me. But then again, I've never had the "I gotta try it" button either. I'm just hardwired differently I suppose. I don't have the slightest regrets about this.

i really don't think there's such a thing as bad acid Todd

there's low powered blotters, and high powered blotters

if you eat the latter, thinking it is the former
it will hit you like a freight train, and your set&setting will be under prepared, and yep, you'll get some pretty darn weird and whoop die doo scary crap

LSD-25 is supposed to be edgy as it coms up , at least if you got blotters that aren't the kind that has been laying in the sun a lot..

the only thing i could think off, is that there is LSD25, and there's another variant called iso-lsd, iso-lsd is supposed to be slightly less violent in the onset, a bit more mellow , closer to mushrooms which feel more natural

that sucking sound you describe, is what you get when you are on the edge of a psychedelic, and you fight it... metallic sound that enters your head, if you'de close yer eyes and focus on it , you'de probably go full blown and head for an ego loss experience

goes sort of like this :
"what's my name? what am i? what's what? huh?what's huh?...?what's ...?"

that ain't the scary part, can't be scared if you don't know nothing
the scary part is when you regain some situational awareness, you start to remember what you are, and then you remembe you are alive, and get confused as to coming or going....

Anybody ever do peyote?

I had wanted to try peyote, but never had the chance. Funny, it grows wild out in Mojave and the surrounding areas... If the chance were to arise, I may still be willing....

Dave

tastes like a mofo

puked my guts out with peyote.

sorry, but there is bad acid when it is cut or has impurities. The best I ever had was liquid L25 dropped on a sugar cube in Santa Cruz. Wonderful stuff.

I gave it all up back in '88.


KT

Nothing. Clean as a whistle ;)