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creaturecat 12-30-2006 09:52 AM

disgusting

svandamme 12-30-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by island911
Ah . .. are ya sure it wasn't that Saddam really wanted to be "hung" ? (like a porn star . . . for the goat.)
well, if i were him, i'de rather get the easy way out , hanging
rather then rotting away in solitary...

he knew he was never, ever getting out
you guys would make sure of that, because the US simply cannot afford a screw up the likes of "We Got him !" and then "woops , He Got Away again !"

he didnt have a chance in hell for anything going his way anymore after he got caught, the only options were :

A trial in Iraq, by Iraqi court, be defiant the whole way( which he was), call for Jihad and try and get those on the outside , to make life difficult for the "occupiers" (which he did), and try and go quickly and with his head up high, sort of looking like he knew what he was doing(he did just that), and ultimately he still controlled the situation, he refused the hood, stood tall, and die a martyr in the eyes of a select few.. ( and i'm sure there's plenty dingbats out there that will actually look at him in that way)


B be tried outside Iraq, by a proper court, with non of his defiant speeches(glass cage, mic=off), lawyers not getting assasinated, and then solitary till he goes completely senile, 15 minutes a day air time, no grass, just a concrete courtyard...Pappillion , without the escapes or friends..

i'll take obvious choice for 400 dollars Alex!

m21sniper 12-30-2006 09:58 AM

This is what you were looking for then?

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/...ga-mugshot.jpg

Manuel Noriega after being captured by US forces in Panama and returned to the US.

svandamme 12-30-2006 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
This is what you were looking for then?


Manuel Noriega after being captured by US forces in Panama and returned to the US.

that one is scheduled for release in the wild again...
which would definately not have been an option for Sadamn

fastpat 12-30-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by island911
Geeze Pat, Saddam TOOK peoples property.

What kind of Libertarian are you. Alll of this support for Saddam... I think that you are FOR the taking of peoples property. You're just another tool proping-up facists actions as acceptable, while under the guisse of being anti-government.

Did you not notice the negatives I wrote? If you did, then return to my first response to this thread's initiator.

Further, I'm not really concerned on a personal level about Hussein, even if he'd been placed back into control of Iraq; I'm an American living in America and as such am only concerned about the brutal regime headed by George W. Bush and family.

fastpat 12-30-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
This is what you were looking for then?

Manuel Noriega after being captured by US forces in Panama and returned to the US.

Noriega was another Bush family retainer gone off the reservation, meaning that he'd told them to stuff it, and that after they'd given him all that money to kill people and import drugs all those years.

The nerve of the guy.

Racerbvd 12-30-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by svandamme
that one is scheduled for release in the wild again...
which would definately not have been an option for Sadamn

How do you know, how can you be sure???

svandamme 12-30-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
You may have heard of the US insurgency in the 1700's, the one complete with guerrilla warriors and the world's first organized sniper corps. To the brits, we were every bit the criminals that the insurgents in Iraq are, and we employed some pretty 'barbaric' tactics ourselves(like specifically targeting British officers for 'execution' in a line of battle).

"US Army Snipers...providing surgical strikes since 1776."

My point however was not that we once had to fight for our freedom, my point was that freedom is an inalienable right, and we are all equally entitled to it IMO...even the dirty unwashed savage masses in Iraq. ;)

it still doesn't compare, because there were no occupiers that occupied to pacify the region, and the rebels were those who had been living there for a while, it was a fight for territory rule

while Iraq, the occupiers ARE the ones helping the local populace, and the insurgents are 3rd party, simply seeking to cause casualties and instability no matter what. they don't want territory rule, they want casualties, if they wanted territorial rule, they'de keep quiet like a mouse untill AFTER the Coalition left, and THEN they would over throw the establisehd gouvernement

let's face it , they want US blood, and it's easier there, then if they have to come find it in the US... a lot easier. unfortunately

island911 12-30-2006 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by svandamme
well, if i were him, i'de rather get the easy way out , hanging
rather then rotting away in solitary...

he knew he was never, ever getting out...

You, clearly, don't think like Saddam . . .or even have a clue how he saw the world.

Saddam did not want to die.
Saddam was pulled out of a 'spider hole.'
Saddam was having people killed even while in prison.
His chances of changing the game while in prision would have much better than when dead. -- he knew this.

"rather then rotting away in solitary..." rrrriiiiigghhttt

svandamme 12-30-2006 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by island911
You, clearly, don't think like Saddam . . .or even have a clue how he saw the world.

Saddam did not want to die.
Saddam was pulled out of a 'spider hole.'
Saddam was having people killed even while in prison.
His chances of changing the game while in prision would have much better than when dead. -- he knew this.

"rather then rotting away in solitary..." rrrriiiiigghhttt

After he was caught, untill he was caught, he was indeed a coward, he tried hard to wipe that image away again...

common, can you honestly believe that he would still have any hope of getting out ? do you think he felt he had a chance of escaping from US custody??

island911 12-30-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by svandamme
...do you think he felt he had a chance of escaping from US custody??
Did Bill Clinton think he could drag a Monica problem thru a trailer park with the ease of a 50 on a string?

You should study the man. (Saddam) Just a quick overview will give you the answer to your Q.

Zeke 12-30-2006 10:56 AM

There's a dirt bag kid in jail somewhere that shot a cop at the Pomona Court House. WE should be so swift in hanging. We should have hung this assbite the next day.... at the Pomona Court House.

m21sniper 12-30-2006 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fastpat
Noriega was another Bush family retainer gone off the reservation, meaning that he'd told them to stuff it, and that after they'd given him all that money to kill people and import drugs all those years.

The nerve of the guy.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Noriega was just another murdering dope dealer. All he got was what was coming to him.

m21sniper 12-30-2006 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
it still doesn't compare, because there were no occupiers that occupied to pacify the region, and the rebels were those who had been living there for a while, it was a fight for territory rule

while Iraq, the occupiers ARE the ones helping the local populace, and the insurgents are 3rd party, simply seeking to cause casualties and instability no matter what. they don't want territory rule, they want casualties, if they wanted territorial rule, they'de keep quiet like a mouse untill AFTER the Coalition left, and THEN they would over throw the establisehd gouvernement

let's face it , they want US blood, and it's easier there, then if they have to come find it in the US... a lot easier. unfortunately

"

All accurate observations, i won't dispute any of them.

fastpat 12-30-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Noriega was just another murdering dope dealer. All he got was what was coming to him.

So when's Bush I, who did likewise, going to get the same treatment?

Flatbutt1 12-30-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by svandamme
it still doesn't compare, because there were no occupiers that occupied to pacify the region, and the rebels were those who had been living there for a while, it was a fight for territory rule

while Iraq, the occupiers ARE the ones helping the local populace, and the insurgents are 3rd party, simply seeking to cause casualties and instability no matter what. they don't want territory rule, they want casualties, if they wanted territorial rule, they'de keep quiet like a mouse untill AFTER the Coalition left, and THEN they would over throw the establisehd gouvernement

let's face it , they want US blood, and it's easier there, then if they have to come find it in the US... a lot easier. unfortunately

d@mned if this isn't spot on

therotman 12-30-2006 05:29 PM

The TV video that cuts away before he drops is posted all over the place, but here is a video that shows the drop.

It's low quality and doesn't capture it too well.

NWS Video Click Here

GettinHeadStuds 12-30-2006 08:56 PM

The full execution video (camera phone) is on 'google video' for those of you interested.

Burn in hell Saddam.

fastpat 12-30-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by GettinHeadStuds
The full execution video (camera phone) is on 'google video' for those of you interested.

Burn in hell Saddam.

So, you're not interested in the rule of law, as long as someone is killed by the state?

Rearden 12-30-2006 09:12 PM

Come on guys, stop feeding the troll.

DavidI 12-30-2006 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
So, you're not interested in the rule of law, as long as someone is killed by the state?
I can see Saddam being chased by General Lee now! Secede!

David

Racerbvd 12-31-2006 09:50 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1167587415.jpg

Steve Carlton 12-31-2006 11:42 AM

Ready... set...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ifs/Saddam.gif

cool_chick 12-31-2006 11:47 AM

I may be asking too much, and if so, fine, I'm sorry.

My 17 year old nephew committed suicide by hanging himself from a tree in a wooded park at night.

I mentioned this in another forum, and someone quoted my post to state his best friend hung himself in high school. This leads me to speculate that I'm probably not the only person on Pelican who had a loved one hang his or herself.

I respectfully request people just link to these images. If you choose not to, that's fine, I understand, I probably am asking too much here.....but this is just a request.

fintstone 12-31-2006 11:51 AM

Yet you have no problem with folks encouraging terrorists to "pour it on" against our soldiers...while many of us have lost friends and family in Iraq?

cool_chick 12-31-2006 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Yet you have no problem with folks encouraging terrorists to "pour it on" against our soldiers...while many of us have lost friends and family in Iraq?
:rolleyes:

Grow up, fint.

fintstone 12-31-2006 11:57 AM

Grow up, Cool.

island911 12-31-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Yet you have no problem with folks encouraging terrorists to "pour it on" against our soldiers...while many of us have lost friends and family in Iraq?
+1

c_c's hypocracy is thick.

svandamme 12-31-2006 12:04 PM

i've always been taught to be a stylish winner, not to gloat...
sorry guys, but it's in poor taste no matter what
this isn't even Osama Bin Laden, remember, the one who DID attack on US soil, so that makes me wonder how low you would sink if he was caught, would you sink to their level? public execution on Times Square?
go midieval on him? hung drawn and quarterd??while chanting death to the barbarian??

this is not even about wether or not he should have been executed, it's about how you deal with it...

Dottore 12-31-2006 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by svandamme
i've always been taught to be a stylish winner, not to gloat...
sorry guys, but it's in poor taste no matter what

Agreed 100%.

Gloating over killing Saddam because you couldn't get the real culprit (OBL) - is distasteful and childish.

fastpat 12-31-2006 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Yet you have no problem with folks encouraging terrorists to "pour it on" against our soldiers...while many of us have lost friends and family in Iraq?
That is your fault, blowback is hell isn't it old boy? If you'll stop spitting into the wind, it'll stop getting all over you.

fintstone 12-31-2006 12:26 PM

Disagreed 100%. We are only joining the Iraqi people in celebrating their shrugging off the yoke of oppression and entering an age of judicial evenhandedness. The Iraqis tried and executed Saddam...we did not. But his actions have resulted in the deaths of more Americans than Bin Laden so far...as well as millions of Iranians, millions of Iraqis, thousands of Kuwaitis, and many Israelis....so we are more than happy to see him meet with Arafat in hell.

You guys are quick to gloat when something the US does goes bad....you moral equivalence is amazing.

svandamme 12-31-2006 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fintstone
his actions have resulted in the deaths of more Americans than Bin Laden so far...
that's a load of nonsense
the US bodycount related to Sadam isn't even 1/10th of what OBL has on his tab

the Insurgency now, did cause more then 9/11, but those insurgents for the most part aren't Baath party loyalists, they aren't former Republican Guard, they are 3rd party that came to Iraq because the US was there looking for the invisible WMD's...

and regardless of why he got executed, it's still childish to act out like this... to sink to that level, if you can't see that, then fair enough i just tried to give you a hint, up to you if you take it or not...

Moneyguy1 12-31-2006 12:35 PM

Well, I for one like to see true successes. The projects our girls and boys are doing on one-to-one with the Iraqis are commendable and worthy of our respect. Since that level is the only one that will truly make a defference in the long run, making friends one individual at a time; providing a positive image of America. However, without an overall strategy at the very top, much of this good is undone at worst and overshadowed at best.

You, fint, will never hear me gloat when something "goes wrong". A true patriot would not act in that manner. A true patriot wants what is best (and actually fights for it, pat) for the country as a whole, not for one party or one philosophy. On the other hand, it is not traitorous to disagree with policy, at least according to the founding fathers.....You have read me wrong so often and I fear will continue to do so.

fintstone 12-31-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by svandamme
that's a load of nonsense
the US bodycount related to Sadam isn't even 1/10th of what OBL has on his tab

the Insurgency now, did cause more then 9/11, but those insurgents for the most part aren't Baath party loyalists, they aren't former Republican Guard, they are 3rd party that came to Iraq because the US was there looking for the invisible WMD's...

and regardless of why he got executed, it's still childish to act out like this... to sink to that level, if you can't see that, then fair enough i just tried to give you a hint, up to you if you take it or not...

If not for Saddam attacking Kuwait...and later not abiding by the cease-fire, Americans would have never warred with Iraq...so all Americans killed in both Iraq wars are directly attributable to Saddam's actions...as are British, Italians, etc killed there. As far as WMD. Saddam claimed he had those "invisible WMD" (as did the leaders and the intel agencies of most nations throughout the world)...so again...his fault.
You are plain wrong. Perhaps if the brutal deaths of your friends or family were cause by this man you would see it as many Americans and Iraqis do. Just trying to give you a clue...take it or not.

fintstone 12-31-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
...
You, fint, will never hear me gloat when something "goes wrong". A true patriot would not act in that manner. A true patriot wants what is best (and actually fights for it, pat) for the country as a whole, not for one party or one philosophy. On the other hand, it is not traitorous to disagree with policy, at least according to the founding fathers.....You have read me wrong so often and I fear will continue to do so.

What are you talking about? Did you post on this somewhere?

fastpat 12-31-2006 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fintstone
If not for Saddam attacking Kuwait...and later not abiding by the cease-fire, Americans would have never warred with Iraq...
If Bush I hasn't supplied the chemical munitions to Iraq, a million and a half Iraqi's and Iranians might not have died either.

Did you help supply those chemicals, fint? Were those your initials I see on the manifest?

Steve Carlton 12-31-2006 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
I may be asking too much, and if so, fine, I'm sorry.

My 17 year old nephew committed suicide by hanging himself from a tree in a wooded park at night.

I mentioned this in another forum, and someone quoted my post to state his best friend hung himself in high school. This leads me to speculate that I'm probably not the only person on Pelican who had a loved one hang his or herself.

I respectfully request people just link to these images. If you choose not to, that's fine, I understand, I probably am asking too much here.....but this is just a request.

I'm sorry for your family's loss, but it sounds like you shouldn't be perusing the "Saddam executed!" thread. You're well aware of what gets posted in OT. I feel no guilt posting images of that genocidal animal's execution (not suicide).

cool_chick 12-31-2006 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Steve Carlton
I'm sorry for your family's loss, but it sounds like you shouldn't be perusing the "Saddam executed!" thread. You're well aware of what gets posted in OT. I feel no guilt posting images of that genocidal animal's execution (not suicide).

It was just a request. I suspect others also probably feel they're over the top as well (including the others posted), for their own personal reasons outside of mine.

No, it was not suicide, but the images are the same as someone who hangs himself in a suicide.

I'll tell you, it's been a real b!tch getting away from them though. Jesus, they're everywhere!

You should feel no guilt, I don't expect you to feel guilt, and I also stressed that if it's asking too much, that I was sorry. It was just a request.

As I still would like to visit this thread regardless, I basically just quickly scrolled by them to get to the bottom. They're on the previous page now so no matter. Just a request. I'm sorry.

Moses 12-31-2006 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
I may be asking too much, and if so, fine, I'm sorry.

I deleted my post. Sorry, Kerri.

Have a safe and happy new year.


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