Saddam executed!

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Moses
I deleted my post. Sorry, Kerri.

Have a safe and happy new year.

I find the posts reveling in the execution tells us much about those celebrating.

It informs us just how similar they are to the executed man.

[slakjaw]

Originally posted by fastpat
I find the posts reveling in the execution tells us much about those celebrating.

It informs us just how similar they are to the executed man.

I disagree, the dude deserved to die. Just like OBL does. I would guess that a lot of people includeing myself would enjoy watching OBL hang in times square. And you are gonna tell me that makes me as bad as they are? Give me a break man, these people have killed so many Americans the only justice they deserve is a quick death. Most wouldnt even give them that. How can you be so critical over those who celebrate the only fitting end to Saddams life.

When these guys cut off some white dudes head they throw a ****ing parade in the street celebrateing that they just cut off some white dudes head.

I see nothing wrong with the posts or the posters. Its justice WTF else do you want?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by slakjaw
I disagree, the dude deserved to die. Just like OBL does. I would guess that a lot of people includeing myself would enjoy watching OBL hang in times square. And you are gonna tell me that makes me as bad as they are? Give me a break man, these people have killed so many Americans the only justice they deserve is a quick death. Most wouldnt even give them that. How can you be so critical over those who celebrate the only fitting end to Saddams life.

When these guys cut off some white dudes head they throw a ****ing parade in the street celebrateing that they just cut off some white dudes head.

I see nothing wrong with the posts or the posters. Its justice WTF else do you want?

I don't care what "they" do in the streets of their country, nor do I give one rat's rear end what they do to mercenary's respective heads either.

The Hussein trial should never have happened the way it did, it was a sham and a travesty. The ends do NOT justify the means.

I stand by my position, and your post only strengthens my opinion.

[slakjaw]

Originally posted by fastpat
I don't care what "they" do in the streets of their country, nor do I give one rat's rear end what they do to mercenary's respective heads either.

The Hussein trial should never have happened the way it did, it was a sham and a travesty. The ends do NOT justify the means.

I stand by my position, and your post only strengthens my opinion.

Oh yeah? well my dog could beat up your dog!

[Aurel]

The tasteless display of Saddams hanging has caused at least two childern deaths so far:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=4904242
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2051037,00.html

The scumbag who shot the video and put it on internet should be sued by the famillies of those children. The viewing of such images is dangerous for kids, as these two suicides demonstrate clearly.

Aurel

[slakjaw]

You gotta be kidding

[speeder]

Originally posted by Aurel
The tasteless display of Saddams hanging has caused at least two childern deaths so far:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=4904242
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2051037,00.html

The scumbag who shot the video and put it on internet should be sued by the famillies of those children. The viewing of such images is dangerous for kids, as these two suicides demonstrate clearly.

Aurel

If they had seen a news story about someone getting hit by a bus, would they have thrown themselves in front of one to "feel the person's pain..."?

Sorry, but this falls under "News of the Weird", or an extreme example of Darwinism.

Good luck with the lawsuit in Iraq, though.

[VaSteve]

Originally posted by Aurel

The scumbag who shot the video and put it on internet should be sued by the famillies of those children. The viewing of such images is dangerous for kids, as these two suicides demonstrate clearly.

Aurel

They should sue the guy that came up with the game "hangman" and Michael Hutchence while they are at it.

I've heard some dumb things today, but you take the cake.

[m21sniper]

Originally posted by slakjaw
I disagree, the dude deserved to die. Just like OBL does. I would guess that a lot of people includeing myself would enjoy watching OBL hang in times square. And you are gonna tell me that makes me as bad as they are? Give me a break man, these people have killed so many Americans the only justice they deserve is a quick death. Most wouldnt even give them that. How can you be so critical over those who celebrate the only fitting end to Saddams life.

When these guys cut off some white dudes head they throw a ****ing parade in the street celebrateing that they just cut off some white dudes head.

I see nothing wrong with the posts or the posters. Its justice WTF else do you want?

Agreed.

[fastpat]

Great work, "W". Shi'ia Militiamen took over Hussein's execution, explaining the video of it.
http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/default.aspx?id=69125

[fintstone]

Originally posted by m21sniper
Agreed.

+1
Slackjaw is da man today!

[fintstone]

This is an excellent op-ed piece on the topic:

Saddam Hussein's last negotiation
By Debra J. Saunders
Thursday, January 4, 2007

Within hours of Saddam Hussein's hanging, the drumbeat began -- as cable-news sages pronounced that the Iraqi scourge's execution will not improve the situation in Iraq. Or, as Newsweek intoned, "Little is gained by Saddam's demise."

These days, the first rule of war coverage is that nothing -- not even military victory -- will improve Iraq's prospects.

The second rule is that everything is botched. So Hussein's trial was not fair, the appeals process was too swift and the execution was insufficiently solemn.

In the 24-hour news cycle, you can kill your own citizens with impunity, subject them to starvation and lead them into an avoidable war. But, if later you are brought to justice, coverage of your trial will be not so much about the carnage as about the "deeply-flawed" trial.

It won't much matter that the defendant admitted that he ordered the deaths of 148 Shiite men and boys in Dujail in 1982. To the American press, justice would have been better served if it had moved with the slothfulness of a California death-penalty appeal. You would think it a good thing for Iraq if Hussein had more time to foment insurgency and thumb his nose at the families of his victims.

Indeed, critics are so busy trying to transform Iraqi prosecutions into an O.J. Simpson trial that they fail to notice that the families of Kurds and Shiites who were tortured and murdered for rebelling against Hussein now know that the Butcher of Baghdad can no longer hurt them. That's why there was dancing in Dearborn, Mich., home to a large community of Iraqi Americans who fled their homeland while under Hussein's rule. Hussein cannot come back, as he did in 1963 after he fled to Syria and Egypt. He will never terrorize his countrymen again. He will hold no more power on this earth. Somehow, that's no biggie.

When you think of all the innocent people who have perished during the war in Iraq, there is something refreshing about seeing the most guilty Iraqi meet his maker. Opinion Journal's James Taranto used the headline: "The World's Smallest Violin."

Oddly, some human-rights groups have their big fiddles out. Or as Richard Dicker, director of Human Rights Watch's International Justice Program, said in a press statement: "The test of a government's commitment to human rights is measured by the way it treats its worst offenders. History will judge these actions harshly."

What nonsense. The measure of a government's commitment should be in how it treats its citizens. Hussein had countless Iraqis killed without a trial. He ordered the death of an 11-year-old boy because he thought it was "the right of the head of state." History will focus on his misdeeds, not the timely execution of a guilty despot.

As for "little is gained" -- do not think that homicidal tinpot dictators do not look at Hussein's fate and shudder. They've just found out that, if deposed, they are not guaranteed final years of luxurious living abroad. Now, they know, there are forces at large who want them to face death before the very people whom they had terrorized and beaten down. This is not the end desired by men for whom dominion over others trumped all.

If this execution were the martyr's end he sought, Hussein would not have greeted U.S. troops who found him in a hole in the ground three years ago with these words: "I am Saddam Hussein, president of Iraq. I want to negotiate."

[fastpat]

Originally posted by fintstone
This is an excellent op-ed piece on the topic:

Saddam Hussein's last negotiation
By Debra J. Saunders
Thursday, January 4, 2007

All of the above is a sigh of relief that there won't be any Saddam Hussein at George W. or George H. W. Bush's war crimes trial(s).

Another Bush family retainer killed for going off the reservation.

Which begs the question, how much longer is America going to tolerate this crime family?

[Moneyguy1]

Um....

I think, hidden in all the rhetoric, is that the execution itself was not carried out even in as dignified a manner as was given to Japanese and German war criminals. The point is not whether the man should have been executed; it was the decorum (or lack thereof) at the execution itself.

Frankly, my personal beliefs is that execution of anyone as dangerous as Saddam was to the human race is a step forward, eliminating forever the spectre of a Napolion coming back from exile to wreak more havoc.

[m21sniper]

Frankly, my personal beliefs is that execution of anyone as dangerous as Saddam was to the human race is a step forward, eliminating forever the spectre of a Napolion coming back from exile to wreak more havoc.

Agreed.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Frankly, my personal beliefs is that execution of anyone as dangerous as Saddam was to the human race is a step forward, eliminating forever the spectre of a Napolion coming back from exile to wreak more havoc.

The ends do NOT justify the means. Would you say the same if the Germans were to lay hands on the little fuhrer in the White House and execute him after a "trial", instead of him being handled by American's?

The only good I can see coming from this event is that, effectively, the Iranian surrogates pulled the lever and sent the film to Tehran immediately, giving the Iranians a quid pro quo they'd been waiting on a long time.

[widebody911]

What I found interesting was the witch hunt to find the guy with the cam phone, and not much interest of the fact that Saddam was turned over to an unruly mob for his hanging.

Reminds of the Abu Graib fiasco - one of the only significant changes in US policy was to ban cameras in the prison.

[Rearden]

Originally posted by widebody911
What I found interesting was the witch hunt to find the guy with the cam phone, and not much interest of the fact that Saddam was turned over to an unruly mob for his hanging.

Reminds of the Abu Graib fiasco - one of the only significant changes in US policy was to ban cameras in the prison.

BFD. I'm sure the 300,000 Iraqis dug up since 2003 are rolling in their mass graves at the thought of Saddam being called names before his death. Untidy, yes. ***** happens.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Rearden
BFD. I'm sure the 300,000 Iraqis dug up since 2003 are rolling in their mass graves at the thought of Saddam being called names before his death. Untidy, yes. ***** happens.

What 300,000 Iraqi's? Even if that many had been dug up, and I've seen nothing indicating more than a few thousand. I'm sure if you dug up the dead from the Reagan/Bush sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, you'd be able to find a whole lot more than 300,000 bodies, which would prove little about Hussein other than he did the bidding of his employers at the time.

That's why Bush was eager to rid the planet of the chief witness against his daddy.

[m21sniper]

Originally posted by fastpat
The ends do NOT justify the means. Would you say the same if the Germans were to lay hands on the little fuhrer in the White House and execute him after a "trial", instead of him being handled by American's?

The only good I can see coming from this event is that, effectively, the Iranian surrogates pulled the lever and sent the film to Tehran immediately, giving the Iranians a quid pro quo they'd been waiting on a long time.

In order for germans to come sieze GW Bush they'd actually have to invest in a credible military force first, which AINT happenin'.

LOL.