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masraum 01-04-2007 11:21 AM

Just block 224.0.0.1, that'll fix it.



probably better if we just all convert to Appletalk.

masraum 01-04-2007 11:23 AM

For anyone that wants to understand IP addressing better, this doc is great and has been around forever.

http://www.3com.com/other/pdfs/infra/corpinfo/en_US/501302.pdf

It's probably more and less than most people would want to know, but thought I'd offer it up to the non-techie people that visit this thread.

svandamme 01-04-2007 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by masraum
Just block 224.0.0.1, that'll fix it.



probably better if we just all convert to Appletalk.

IPX/SPX and DOS VLM's ;)

masraum 01-04-2007 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by svandamme
IPX/SPX and DOS VLM's ;)
Not as much fun as SNA, but I like the nice long addresses.

svandamme 01-04-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by masraum
Not as much fun as SNA, but I like the nice long addresses.
there was this time where there was this netware for SAA box running , back in 99, and the manager insisted that the bugger had to patched with the netware32 "upgrade" , totally ignoring my warnings about saa not beeing supported anymore and the patch most likely killin the box...guess what, it killed the box.. while i'm working at it , the clock ticks, and suddenly they tell me , btw, if this thing isn't backup in the next hour we ,shut down the plant because we need our safety procedures for the next shift... that'll cost us 250K and hour...don't let us down champ!

also had a Siemens Comet, of which they told me : if it goes down, we're screwed, those who built this thing @ Siemens retired... when you run the backup , follow each command to the letter, no mistakes !!

and obviously on day 1 of my command, i follow the backup procedure to the letter, and the rotten thing stops responding on the terminal...quick call to my predecessor : "just bang the keyboard a bit, see if it helps"

aah, the good ol days, when 'puters were still tricky , heavy and misterious...

KFC911 01-05-2007 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by masraum
Not as much fun as SNA, but I like the nice long addresses.
My first job out of college was with IBM @ RTP working on SNA microcode development ...then a communications systems programmer for many years. This IP stuff is primitive :)...not really, just different, but I did prefer the "good 'ole days"...

masraum 01-05-2007 07:51 AM

SNA and Source Route Bridging makes me want to hurl. I'm afraid I'm just a young whippersnapper. I like my layer 3 and IP.

KFC911 01-05-2007 08:09 AM

I've been doing mostly IP stuff for the last ten years or so, so I understand what ya mean by SRBing. There are more elegant solutions (DLSW), like I said, native IP is 'primitive'. Hey, what are we doing talking about this crap here in PPOT....you must be a "liberal neocon", let's change the subject :)


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