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island911 01-07-2007 08:22 PM

fwiw the latest IE has tabs, like Mozilla.

SlowToady 01-07-2007 08:22 PM

Also, if you "upgrade" to IE7 there is a tabbed browsing feature that basically opens another IE window inside the one you're already running and you can click between them under the address bar.

*In my experience, not worth it just for tabbed browsing. Get FireFox 2.

slodave 01-07-2007 08:23 PM

Wayne, go with tabbed browsing. Much easier to deal with...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1168233776.jpg

Dave

Joeaksa 01-07-2007 08:26 PM

Wayne,

Better tip. Ditch IE and go with Firefox. I did 3 months ago and have been kicking myself in the rear ever since. Why? Should have done it years ago.

Firefox is better, faster and uses lots less memory. Am addicted to the tabbing now and IE is just following Firefox's lead.

Try it, you WILL like it.

HardDrive 01-07-2007 08:52 PM

I use Opera. Fantastic browser.

BlueSkyJaunte 01-07-2007 08:56 PM

LOL here's a really small tip for using Internet Explorer:

Don't.

nostatic 01-07-2007 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
LOL here's a really small tip for using Internet Explorer:

Don't.

+ infinity

m21sniper 01-07-2007 09:40 PM

Re: Small Tip for Using Internet Explorer...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
Just discovered this. I usually have about 10-15 IE (browser) windows open at at time. If you click a shortcut in the toolbar on your desktop, it opens an entirely new IE process that consumes about 20-30 megs of RAM. Multiply that by 10-15 windows, and IE can be sucking up a lot of your available memory.

Instead, if you take an existing, already open IE window and hit Control-N (open a new window), then you will open a new window with the same IE process, and it will only consume a small bit more of RAM, intead of another 20-30 megs.

-Wayne

Or you could just use Firefox 2.0. :)

slodave 01-07-2007 10:19 PM

You can get a plugin for Firefox 2 that lets you run IE tabs under Firefox... :)

Dave

http://davemason.net/images/ie_tab.jpg

widgeon13 01-08-2007 02:30 AM

I just stopped making recommendations because it seems all one gets is shlt and no one seems to read previous posts anyway, guess I just got up on the wrong side of the bed.

turbo6bar 01-08-2007 04:52 AM

Firefox good. Opera good. What's IE? ;)

stomachmonkey 01-08-2007 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

Firefox is *not* 100% compatible with sites designed for use with IE - all of our internal Pelican invoicing and inventory sites are.

-Wayne

One of my major beefs with MSFT. They take a standard and "improve" it to the point that it only works best with other MSFT products.

You should not have to design a site that works best with a particular browser.

That's why the W3C set standards that every other browser adheres to.

Hopefully won't last long. On the sites that I manage I see roughly 85% IE and the rest FireFox and others.

However, one of my gaming clients is getting 50% Firefox and 43% IE traffic.

That's gotta scare the crap out of MSFT. If I'm seeing that then the xBox site has got to be seeing something close to it as well.

It's important since gamers are considered pretty knowledgable and are generally the families "trusted advisor". They are the person that friends and family turn to for help with their PC needs.

Marketers are all going after the trusted advisor. The general public is apathetic about PC technology, they don't want to know the details. They just want a box to do their stuff with.

JeremyD 01-08-2007 05:10 AM

IE 7 suks

oldE 01-08-2007 05:23 AM

Opera +1

Les

Joeaksa 01-08-2007 05:28 AM

The only site I have found that Firefox does not work with is Windows Update. They want THEIR browser being used with their updates. Course their browser needs to be updated as its so buggy and behind the times.

Sorry but have used IE far too much and there are other products out there that are better. MS is getting what they deserve and its way past time.

VaSteve 01-08-2007 05:43 AM

Quote:

[i]
As a professional software designer, I am recommending that everyone stay away from IE7 until more information on the security restrictions implemented are documented.

-Wayne [/B]

But it's *safer*. The thing at the top of Yahoo says so.

Aurel 01-08-2007 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VaSteve
But it's *safer*. The thing at the top of Yahoo says so.
Not using IE at all is safer. Using a Mac is even safer ;)

Aurel

stomachmonkey 01-08-2007 06:48 AM

Quote:

If you click a shortcut in the toolbar on your desktop, it opens an entirely new IE process that consumes about 20-30 megs of RAM. Multiply that by 10-15 windows, and IE can be sucking up a lot of your available memory.

Instead, if you take an existing, already open IE window and hit Control-N (open a new window), then you will open a new window with the same IE process, and it will only consume a small bit more of RAM, intead of another 20-30 megs.
Just read that again. You have to wonder why would they allow that to happen? It's basically allowing an application to run multiple instances of itself. What is the benefit? I could see some upside if the app was doing some heavy processing (3d rendering) that did not utilize 100% of available RAM or processor time and that by running multiple instances you could run concurrent tasks in their own memory/processor space which could be efficient. Can't see why a web browser would need to do that.

Simply mind boggling.

BlueSkyJaunte 01-08-2007 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stomachmonkey
Simply mind boggling.
I think that maybe they were hoping that when one IE window crashes, it wouldn't bring down the other 15. Of course, they didn't realize it brings down the whole OS...

lendaddy 01-08-2007 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
I think that maybe they were hoping that when one IE window crashes, it wouldn't bring down the other 15. Of course, they didn't realize it brings down the whole OS...
What are these "crashes" you MAC guys are always talking about?:D


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