only 26% of pop. has a 4 year degree!

[M.D. Holloway]

many responded before I could! The figuers are from 2005. I don't think they have changed significantly. Check out this chart:

[lendaddy]

My buddy was just named CEO of a $20mm company at age 33 with not even an associates degree.

I also lack a degree of any kind. Big shock I know

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by id10t
I realize this is a outflyer, but what about folks like me who hold jobs that require masters or phds, but don't actually have a degree at all? Got my current job, it required a masters in educational technology, got it on experience alone. Freaked HR out to hire a 27 year old that had a documented 16 years experience programming, etc. tho And I do have a degree now, but it is "just" an AS in systems ...

I have a bunch of students who can program their eyes out but they could not advance without the paper. Stupid but that is the way it is.

[charleskieffner]

hey i just gleamed the tidbit from yahoo. since i graduated in dec. '06............finally! long story involving mis-spent youth. my NAU graduating class numbered about 2000 people of various degrees.

dont know where the numbers came from, but sure was funny that the numbers were not higher, considering corp. america almost, if not, demanding a degree for majority of positions!

i think degrees have become what high school diplomas (not G.E. D.'s) were back when i graduated high school (1975). i can remember my h.s. counselor yelling at me to get my high school diploma or i would be sorry and never amount to nothing in his eyes. can remember when younger, applying for jobs and always being asked for proof of high school graduation. now as i have aged, everyone asks for documentation (legal form direct from college or univ,) proving you have a degree. propably the number one item any corporation checks on your resume for being legitimate, aside from doing background check, after you checked box "NO" your not an axe murderer or michael jacksons friend!

i can relate to many upstanding people w/wealth not having degrees also. while fighting tooth and nail one day doing algebra(my most hated dreaded subject), i asked a retired boeing test pilot here, who was involved with 737/747/757/767 projects as chief test pilot if he EVER USED ALGEBRA. his answer............"NO"! right then i knew i was studying something i wasnt going to use in my life after college.

seems a degree means a hell of alot to some.............and not a hell of alot to others nowadays.

EXPENSIVE DAMN SHEEPSKIN!

[NICKG]

not having a degree is killing me...i am in school now to fix it. I have a technical degree in automotive repair, and will have an AAS in the same shortly, but i was smart and took heavy Psych at the same time as the educational requirements for the AAS. I am hoping to get out of the 2 year school with 2 degrees and then take a 4 year in Teaching or an automotive focused degree program. I have set a goal to have a Baccuerlate by 40. I am hoping that (by then) 23 years experience, 2 aas, 1 technical and a bac degree gets me a reall secure and paid job with a manufacturer...i am also trying to learn spanish AND German to sweeten it. I truly feel bad for people who did not go get a degree, i know that was the biggest mistake of my life....and i will pay for that for the rest of my life unless i get it or work for myself....(a very good possibility)

[fastpat]

Originally posted by lendaddy
My buddy was just named CEO of a $20mm company at age 33 with not even an associates degree.

I also lack a degree of any kind. Big shock I know

The horror.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by fastpat
The horror.

I like to think of it as "un-indoctrinated".

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by lendaddy
My buddy was just named CEO of a $20mm company at age 33 with not even an associates degree.

I also lack a degree of any kind. Big shock I know

The NBA also will draft a kid right from HS - about a one in a billion shot.

[RickM]

Just caught Bill Gates on Jon Stewart. I wonder if he ever went on to get his degree. Honorary degrees not included.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
The NBA also will draft a kid right from HS - about a one in a billion shot.

Lebron James is doing all right

[SlowToady]

Maybe if this **** wasn't so expensive, more people would get degrees. Maybe...maybe not. I'm paying ~$20-22K to go to University of Kentucky, and that's not "unreasonable." I read a study in the newspaper over the summer that said college grads that have >$100,000 in debt just from UNDERGRAD is growing, growing, growing. Every year tuition goes up, at what seems like every school.

It seems like you need a degree to do ANYTHING these days, so it's odd more people don't have them.

As for rich people not having degrees...it's a long shot at best, and certainly nothing to bank on these days. Excluding athletes and other entertainers, the people with money have degrees.

[charleskieffner]

$748 bucks at NAU for 3-credit class in-state tuition. this was just raised by 10% i think by college board. thats not including books/gas/food etc. obviously i wasnt living on campus, but the commute was a PITA!

i can remember my folks complaining about how much REGIS COLLEGE in denver,colorado was in 1975, for quality" beat you over the head w/a book jesuit education"...........$110 bucks a credit hour. or $330 bucks for a (3) credit class! thats 32 years of college tuition increases for a comparison btwn jesuit education and public education now.

your right if they made it more affordable to everyone, then more would attend. and quality of life would be better for most.

hardest thing i've done was going back at my advanced age, aside from dragging my elk out of a canyon a few years back!!!!!

[nineoneone]

When I was younger I worked for the prison system briefly, It was a cold slap in the face when I found out that the men in that prison were getting 4 yr degree for FREE. So, when they return (lol) to work outside the prison they could fit in to society. boy I should have gotten lock up. The joke was ......Yeah I graduated from Penn State oh I mean State penn.

[RickM]

Problem is the ex con also has a record that is likely more detrimental than a no degree position.

[930addict]

Originally posted by turbo6bar
Wipro exec was on CNBC this morning. He states India graduates 400k engineers each year vs 75k in the US. Ouch.

Education in India is FREE. You can get your PhD for no money out of pocket. Some countries invest in their people instead wars.

[tabs]

Just because U have a degree it doesn't mean you smart, just ask Lubby!

[Jims5543]

Originally posted by lendaddy
My buddy was just named CEO of a $20mm company at age 33 with not even an associates degree.

I also lack a degree of any kind. Big shock I know

No degree here either and I do very well for myself.

When I worked for a big corporation in West Palm Beach I was reminded daily about my lack of a degree. This was usually done in one of the countless meetings I sat in with my degreed associates as we discussed into the ground how we were going to do something.

We spent more time in meetings talking about working on jobs than actually working. After 18 months of that crap I left and started my own business and never missed it.

We rarely have meetings here, as a matter of fact we had one meeting a week when we were really busy, it was on Friday afternoons at the local Ale house over beers and wings. We talked shop, took some notes, and played pool.

[Flatbutt1]

I have a 4 year degree with nearly 30 years experience on top of it. But I can't advance tothe research levels of my corporation because I ONLY have a baccalaureate.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by 930addict
Education in India is FREE. You can get your PhD for no money out of pocket. Some countries invest in their people instead wars.

You don't pay for a PhD in the states either.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by tabs
Just because U have a degree it doesn't mean you smart, just ask Lubby!

Hay! I re-assemble that remake!