Well, ever head of "Car Jacking" or if like I use to have to do with my work, and some times still do, carry large amounts of cash, it is better to be safe than sorry, and if dot gets his turbo look car jacked while visiting who ever he sees in cali, that if any CCW guys turn their head and ignore it when they shoot him. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170380660.jpg

A carry gun is useless w/o one ready to go in the chamber. Any time you draw your gun its going to be a spit second life or death situation and your not going to have the time to rack one. I would rethink what your doin...

Most current 1911 type pistols have a firing pin block (that's lifted when the trigger is pulled), and then the two external safeties. It's pretty safe to have a round in the chamber.

It's actually safer to have that round chambered than to fiddle with it under great stress. Anyone who thinks they will automatically, cooly, and effortlessly chamber a round in a self-defense situation is kidding themselves. The less you have to do other than pulling a trigger, the better. Swiping off a safety is approaching overload for most untrained folks under that level of stress. Make it easier on yourself and take advantage of the two passive and one manual safety on a modern 1911; keep a round chambered. Otherwise it's just a club, and a very short one at that.

The other compact gun I have is a Detonics CombatMaster. Not really pocketable, and heavy, so not currently planning to carry it.

Plus it needs to visit gunsmith for ejection problems. Extracted case sometimes doesn't get kicked out by the ejector, ends up trapped between slide and barrel. Not a stovepipe, case is facing empty mouth forward. I speculate the ejector needs to be a bit longer. Or the recoil spring a little softer. I'm guessing.

But if I did carry it, I think would have one in the chamber. Recoil spring is heavy (triple spring) and I'm not sure I could cycle the slide quickly and reliably when terrified.

Of course, the CombatMaster lacks a grip safety. So if cocked, I would worry about the manual safety getting wiped off.

That sounds like the extractor is dropping the case, and then the ejector isn't hitting it because the case is out of position.

I carry everywhere I can legally. There are few exceptions, but by and large most places it isn't a problem.

My summer gun is a Walther PPK/S in .380 that lives in a pancake at the small of my back. I also have a shoulder rig for those James Bond sort of days. Dress slacks don't conceal as well as jeans or khakis.

My winter gun is a Walther P99 in .40 S&W in a shoulder holster. Heavier coats make the large auto easy to conceal on my relatively small frame.

Hiking and fishing carry gun is a S&W Model 66 in .357. I have a swell holster I made that lets me strap it to my chest. It's great for when I wear waders or a backpack.

You are only limited by your imagination and budget.

Micah

Boy, I know that feeling, when I had the Desert Eagle, I only weighed 134lbs:D That gun was wider than I was at the time:eek:

Re: CCW - When And Where Do You Carry?
 

A) If you can see me, I am armed.

B) I drive thru the ghetto everyday where crack dealers and "homies" wearing bandanas over their faces regularly try to wave me down. One of these days, my car is going to break down in that neighborhood...

Notice the picture I posted. There are 8 rounds in my gun, one in the pipe and seven in the magazine.

Bill

Only Pelican meets.

.40 Glock model 23 with night sights. Or a Colt .45 ACP 1911

I carry both of these. I plan to plant the painted one on the dead oozing riddled body of my former attacker.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170418506.jpg

This is an interestreting discussion. I to carry a weapon for selfed protection otherwise who is going to protect me? I cannot depend on the police as it seems they are not interested in much of anything except speeding ticket giving.

This is a very nice looking pistol:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170370027.jpg

What type of bullets are you all preferring to load with? How long does the license process take for you?

Swang,
Post another pics of that weapon. Is it a Kimber compact 45?

Personally, I always keep my handgun loaded with relatively heavy hollowpoints for two reasons. One, if I ever need to use it in my home I don't want the round to penetrate all the way through the intruder. Two, you're usually using the firearm at very close proximity and thus I'd rather have more mass on target than velocity.

My understanding of ballistics says that a relatively light, for the bore diameter, hollow point designed to expand at pistol velocities is the best for defense.

For example, my 185 grain Golden Saber +P in .45 ACP are moving fast enough to expand which then transfers all of the energy into the target, even at close range.
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That is not my gun. It is an impressive one however.

I am still wondering what type of bullets all of the gun carrying people on here use? Are you satisfied to use normal round with soft tips or do you worry about piercing ones?

That is a picture of my Kimber, Ultra CDP II. PM me, I have some more pictures I can send or fill you in on the gun. If you are interested, you really need to avoid the ones with the External Extractors...

I also carry a hollow point in the .45

Bill

+1, my high cap carry .45 likes Golden Saber's

I carry the speer gold dots.

In the case that anyone wants to see my weapon of choice

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170465154.jpg

Any views on Glaser Safety Slugs or similar?

FN SevenFive ... great choice

Soon, very soon will got one.

In an apartment, or if your house is extremely close to a neighboring house; then those are a good idea. They're very expensive, but significantly cheaper than a personal injury lawsuit resulting from an unintended bystander wounding.

I keep my weapon loaded with armor percing bullets for my safety and protection. I sleep very well at night knowing it is ready for any intrusion or burgler.

I have two occasions to use the gun against somebody bad - has anyone else?

Armor piercing, in a handgun?

Why is that not acceptable?

And please tell me what this is suppose to mean?

I prefer to stick with cast bullets for everything, including my own defense. I have shot a miriad of animals, of about deer size or larger, with all kinds of bullets. I have personally witnessed the effectiveness, or lack thereof, of some designs. I will say without hesitation that jacketed handgun bullets show the poorest performance on deer-size animals, by a very noticable degree. My sample size is admittedly rather small compared to others', comprising only a few dozen animals, but I have drawn some conclusions.

When hunting, there is no such thing as "overpenetration". I lean towards that philosophy regarding personal defense as well. The oft-mentioned innocent bystander that just happens to be precisely lined up to receive the exiting bullet is improbabable enough to pretty much dismiss.

The poor performance of jacketed pistol bullets, particularly hollowpoints, cannot be dismissed. They are simply unreliable. My worst personal case was with a very popular 240 grain hollowpoint driven to almost 1400 fps from my .44 mag. A whole cylinder's worth, five rounds, did not put an average size mulie down at less than 20 yards. My partner finished it with a rifle. The post-mortem examination revealed every one had broken up on the shoulder joint and failed to penetrate. I won't stake my life on such performance.

Permanent, as opposed to temporary wound channel is what puts game down and I assume stops fights as well. Most bullets open an impressive temporary wound channel that actually closes rather quickly behind it. A cutting edge, a sharp shoulder on the front of the bullet, actually removes tissue so the wound cannot close behind it. Think of pushing a pencil through a pice of paper vs. punching it with a conductor's punch. The same principal is at work in wound ballistics. Here is what I normally carry; I have killed several deer and antelope with this very load. Only one deer took a second shot, but only because he hadn't figured out he was dead yet. The first was fatal; I was impatient.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170468269.jpg

Notice the flat nose, sharp shoulder, and sharp shoulder on the front driving band. These combine to first transfer a great deal of energy (like a flat hand slapping the water) and cut a full caliber, permanent wound channel. One of the most effective bullet designs out there, the old semi-wadcutter as developed by Elmer Keith. Does not rely upon expansion to get the job done, and is deadly even at moderate velocities. My "standard" velocity .45 Colt loads drive them at just under 1,000 fps, and yet they topple 200-250 pound mulies with authority. If push ever comes to shove, this is what I want to hit the bad guy with.

Ive got a box of black talons for my 45

Pure marketing hype, to the point where our rather clueless leaders bought into in convincingly enough to ban them. Go shoot something with one and report back.

You sound so proud!

I keep a SIG P239 in .40 cal. with one in the pipe and an extra mag on the side of the holster in my car door pocket all the time. When I cross into enemy territory (MD and DC), I put it under the seat. When I wear proper clothing and exit the car, I carry the gun either in my SIG Tac jacket with a holster built into the inner breast pocket or in an ambidexterous leather sheath that clips onto my belt inside or outside my pants.

It's pretty cold here now, so I really need to switch to one of my .357SIG's to better penetrate winter clothing. But my P229 and Pro 2340 are kinda heavy with high-cap. magazines.

I look at it this way - the police are there to clean up the mess and take the report. They will never ever, ever prevent you from getting killed by a bad guy. I've been pulled over several times while carrying and the cops have never cared about it when I flashed my permit.

We can't carry in places that servce alcohol in VA. But that's just about every restaurant except for fast food. So I ignore that law when I can carry ultra-concealed with no chance of discovery. Go ahead and arrest me. At least I'll be alive.

Here's my Sig P239 and Beretta 92FS
 

Here are my pistols. I don't carry them (no CCW) and only use them to shoot at the range, hence the 9mm "affordable" cartridge...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170472052.jpg

Remember, it's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.

Unbelieveable.

I didn't say it was "unacceptable", but since nearly all centerfire rifle ammo is armor piercing, and some shotgun slug ammo is as well, it begs the question, why? Most pistol ammo doesn't have the velocity to be armor piercing, is the wrong shape, and so forth.

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And please tell me what this is suppose to mean?

It's a rhetorical question. It wants people (who support taxation) to justify using the government to steal money from others to accomplish things they don't want to pay for themselves.

The problem with the FN is the ammo is uber expensive.

Bill

Here we go!!!

Relax, don't get your knickers in a knot.:rolleyes:

I am sorry but not understanding too well.

You guys are all insanity, you should be lucky to grow up with the ability to own a gun and shoot someone who tries to come into your house and take your loved ones away. It is this that makes you crazy.

My house is better than a car. Or gun. My family is best of all.

Thanks but I'm not happy with you for suggesting otherwised.