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slakjaw 02-06-2007 09:11 AM

What's it going to be like when Rudy get elected president?
 
I will vote for Mccain but I predict that Rudy is our next president. Dont think I am really looking forward to that.

DaveE 02-06-2007 09:12 AM

Too liberal for the Republican Party.....

Moneyguy1 02-06-2007 09:14 AM

The "moral majority" will be VERY unhappy.......

Jim Richards 02-06-2007 09:18 AM

Rudy'll want to move the US Capitol to NYC. Better restaurants.

speeder 02-06-2007 09:31 AM

I would say that it will never happen, but after the last couple of elections I have given up the word impossible.

stevepaa 02-06-2007 09:33 AM

The Moral Majority will accept an adulterer?

legion 02-06-2007 10:03 AM

The far right votes in Republican primaries. Not gonna happen.

the 02-06-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by stevepaa
The Moral Majority will accept an adulterer?
Over the lesbian wife of an adulterer, yeah.

Rearden 02-06-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by DaveE
Too liberal for the Republican Party.....
According to Dick Morris, Rudy is acceptable to Grover Norquist and his pals. They'd rather push Rudy through than be stuck with Hillary (according to Morris, a classic European socialist a la Jospin or Schroeder) for four years.

DaveE 02-06-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by the
Over the lesbian wife of an adulterer, yeah.
Who in the Republican primary has a lesbian wife?

fastpat 02-06-2007 10:22 AM

Re: What's it going to be like when Rudy get elected president?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by slakjaw
I will vote for Mccain but I predict that Rudy is our next president. Dont think I am really looking forward to that.
How's Rudy's testicular implant coming? Will he be fully recovered by election time to face Hillary again?

the 02-06-2007 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by DaveE
Who in the Republican primary has a lesbian wife?
Oh yeah, my bad, Mary Cheney isn't running.

NICKG 02-06-2007 10:51 AM

rudy! rudy! he has my vote, he may not be the revolutionary that Pat wants, but he is a heck of a good leader. Middled of the road views and strong on domestic stuff, just what we need here and soon. He is not a crusader like the little furher is, not as communist as the democrats and has great track records from being a mob stopper to the guy that kept it together at 9/11

DaveE 02-06-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by NICKG
rudy! rudy! he has my vote, he may not be the revolutionary that Pat wants, but he is a heck of a good leader. Middled of the road views and strong on domestic stuff, just what we need here and soon. He is not a crusader like the little furher is, not as communist as the democrats and has great track records from being a mob stopper to the guy that kept it together at 9/11
Too bad he's 'un-electable' in the Republican primaries.

rrpjr 02-06-2007 10:53 AM

I think he is very electable, both in the nomination and general election (just as I believe Hillary Clinton is, for different reasons). How can this be? There is always a fascinating split in American politics between what seems possible or not possible on paper, in the dry calculations of allegiances, and then what we see in the actual event of someone running, speaking, engaging the dynamism of leadership in action.

Rudy Guiliani can win because the actuality and authenticity of the man is greater than the sum of the concerns. Moreover, because he has not only managed a grossly unmanageable city but done so in superior fashion. To read the full account of Rudy's stewardship of New York is almost to read a miracle of modern political confrontation and problem-solving; I suggest Steven Malanga's pieces in the City Journal. Rudy took on at least dozen of the city's most hardened defenders of failed liberal status quo and whipped them again and again. No one running can bring such a record to the campaign. This is deeply appealing to conservatives and, more broadly I think, to Americans. As for primary conservatives not supporting him for moral reasons, I can only refer to the predictions about how conservative rural Democrats would turn against John F. Kennedy in the 1960 primaries. They didn't. Once again, political predictions by the mainstream media completely missed this key element of the human story, that is, how the alchemy of leadership takes a debate beyond the limits of litmus. Of course, the unknown is how well Mitt Romney, Rudy's main rival, plays his cards. Forget McCain -- he is the flip side of this story about conventional wisdom. The primary voters will indeed reject him, for in him they correctly sense another temporizing poiltician who needs to be liked more than is willing to or knows how to lead. In his bones, McCain is a parliamentarian and not an executive. That's not Rudy's problem.

Jim Richards 02-06-2007 10:56 AM

Are you Rudy's press secretary?

DaveE 02-06-2007 11:04 AM

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/004238.html

"The problem for Giuliani is that some of the GOP's "loyal base" would consider him not not so much the guy who refuses to drink the base's Koolaid as the guy who'd poison it with cyanide:

"Giuliani is an ultraliberal," Sanders said. "He supports gay rights. He supports banning all handguns. He supports abortion. His wife kicked him out, and he moved in with two gay men and a Shih Tzu. Is that South Carolina values? I don't think so."

This position is echoed by many red staters, such as this Second Amendment blogger in South Carolina:

Giuliani was not questioned much about his record on the three G's (God, Guns, and Gays). However, the record will show that Giuliani has supported gay marriage, abortion, and gun control. Most observers would naturally assume that Giuliani won't play well here. But, Bandy seems to think otherwise.

Bandy's flawed assessment is based on his interpretation of the lack of questions on social issues. He surmises that people don't care and are actually focused on other things, namely national security. He may be right about that current focus, but even that won't bode well for an anti-gun Giuliani.

Think about it. What clear thinking person who is actually focused on national security would support someone who wants to take away their guns? If we suddenly find ourselves fighting terrorist here on South Carolina soil, I want every advantage I can have. I'm certain that many people agree.

God, guns, gays.

It has an alliterative ring that just keeps on giving on a gut level, doesn't it? "

What plays in LA may not in Alabama.

NICKG 02-06-2007 11:10 AM

well the thing he has going is that he will appeal to democratic voters in addition to republican(he will lose some of these for his views, but will more than pick up the difference in crossover). He will have strong backing from non declared voters and will do well in democratic states i think. Honestly I really feel that he is the guy because he combines both parties views, and he is not spoken in the same breathe as Bush (that is political suicide at this point), so he is distanced from the current regime

DaveE 02-06-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by NICKG
well the thing he has going is that he will appeal to democratic voters in addition to republican(he will lose some of these for his views, but will more than pick up the difference in crossover). He will have strong backing from non declared voters and will do well in democratic states i think. Honestly I really feel that he is the guy because he combines both parties views, and he is not spoken in the same breathe as Bush (that is political suicide at this point), so he is distanced from the current regime
The Dems can't help him in most primaries however, at least not in my state, unless a huge number would switch parties for the primary. If he made it through and got the nomination that would be a different story.

the 02-06-2007 11:16 AM

I do agree he can't make it out of the Repub primary. You can have all the analysis, thinking, words, etc. you want, but it can be summed up in one word:

Abortions.


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