What's it going to be like when Rudy get elected president?
 

I will vote for Mccain but I predict that Rudy is our next president. Dont think I am really looking forward to that.

Too liberal for the Republican Party.....

The "moral majority" will be VERY unhappy.......

Rudy'll want to move the US Capitol to NYC. Better restaurants.

I would say that it will never happen, but after the last couple of elections I have given up the word impossible.

The Moral Majority will accept an adulterer?

The far right votes in Republican primaries. Not gonna happen.

Over the lesbian wife of an adulterer, yeah.

According to Dick Morris, Rudy is acceptable to Grover Norquist and his pals. They'd rather push Rudy through than be stuck with Hillary (according to Morris, a classic European socialist a la Jospin or Schroeder) for four years.

Who in the Republican primary has a lesbian wife?

Re: What's it going to be like when Rudy get elected president?
 

How's Rudy's testicular implant coming? Will he be fully recovered by election time to face Hillary again?

Oh yeah, my bad, Mary Cheney isn't running.

rudy! rudy! he has my vote, he may not be the revolutionary that Pat wants, but he is a heck of a good leader. Middled of the road views and strong on domestic stuff, just what we need here and soon. He is not a crusader like the little furher is, not as communist as the democrats and has great track records from being a mob stopper to the guy that kept it together at 9/11

Too bad he's 'un-electable' in the Republican primaries.

I think he is very electable, both in the nomination and general election (just as I believe Hillary Clinton is, for different reasons). How can this be? There is always a fascinating split in American politics between what seems possible or not possible on paper, in the dry calculations of allegiances, and then what we see in the actual event of someone running, speaking, engaging the dynamism of leadership in action.

Rudy Guiliani can win because the actuality and authenticity of the man is greater than the sum of the concerns. Moreover, because he has not only managed a grossly unmanageable city but done so in superior fashion. To read the full account of Rudy's stewardship of New York is almost to read a miracle of modern political confrontation and problem-solving; I suggest Steven Malanga's pieces in the City Journal. Rudy took on at least dozen of the city's most hardened defenders of failed liberal status quo and whipped them again and again. No one running can bring such a record to the campaign. This is deeply appealing to conservatives and, more broadly I think, to Americans. As for primary conservatives not supporting him for moral reasons, I can only refer to the predictions about how conservative rural Democrats would turn against John F. Kennedy in the 1960 primaries. They didn't. Once again, political predictions by the mainstream media completely missed this key element of the human story, that is, how the alchemy of leadership takes a debate beyond the limits of litmus. Of course, the unknown is how well Mitt Romney, Rudy's main rival, plays his cards. Forget McCain -- he is the flip side of this story about conventional wisdom. The primary voters will indeed reject him, for in him they correctly sense another temporizing poiltician who needs to be liked more than is willing to or knows how to lead. In his bones, McCain is a parliamentarian and not an executive. That's not Rudy's problem.

Are you Rudy's press secretary?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/004238.html

"The problem for Giuliani is that some of the GOP's "loyal base" would consider him not not so much the guy who refuses to drink the base's Koolaid as the guy who'd poison it with cyanide:

"Giuliani is an ultraliberal," Sanders said. "He supports gay rights. He supports banning all handguns. He supports abortion. His wife kicked him out, and he moved in with two gay men and a Shih Tzu. Is that South Carolina values? I don't think so."

This position is echoed by many red staters, such as this Second Amendment blogger in South Carolina:

Giuliani was not questioned much about his record on the three G's (God, Guns, and Gays). However, the record will show that Giuliani has supported gay marriage, abortion, and gun control. Most observers would naturally assume that Giuliani won't play well here. But, Bandy seems to think otherwise.

Bandy's flawed assessment is based on his interpretation of the lack of questions on social issues. He surmises that people don't care and are actually focused on other things, namely national security. He may be right about that current focus, but even that won't bode well for an anti-gun Giuliani.

Think about it. What clear thinking person who is actually focused on national security would support someone who wants to take away their guns? If we suddenly find ourselves fighting terrorist here on South Carolina soil, I want every advantage I can have. I'm certain that many people agree.

God, guns, gays.

It has an alliterative ring that just keeps on giving on a gut level, doesn't it? "

What plays in LA may not in Alabama.

well the thing he has going is that he will appeal to democratic voters in addition to republican(he will lose some of these for his views, but will more than pick up the difference in crossover). He will have strong backing from non declared voters and will do well in democratic states i think. Honestly I really feel that he is the guy because he combines both parties views, and he is not spoken in the same breathe as Bush (that is political suicide at this point), so he is distanced from the current regime

The Dems can't help him in most primaries however, at least not in my state, unless a huge number would switch parties for the primary. If he made it through and got the nomination that would be a different story.

I do agree he can't make it out of the Repub primary. You can have all the analysis, thinking, words, etc. you want, but it can be summed up in one word:

Abortions.

true....if he gets the nod, he will be the next president

he's a better politician than most around here give him credit for.

that he knows how to deal with gangsters will cause the ME gangsters to overtly donate to the Dems. Wanderlust of pre 9/11 days will keep Congress busy.

Bush will soon become a sweet memory to the Libs if he gets into the White House w/preemption. He'll accomplish all with voter, legislative, and judicial support. This country hasn't been the same since we caught a beating during the War of 1812. Those days will never happen again and the world will be reminded.

He's anti-self defense rights, he's invented laws for which to try people at the federal level, and has close associates that have actually been charged with criminal corruption.

America doesn't not need a corrupt sociofascist as president.

Since when? ;)

CNN & Lou Dobbs trashing Pelosi


http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?pmmsid=1837250

Pelosi needs to find a clue. CNN is just trying to help her figure out where to start looking.

Has exactly WHAT to do with Guiliani?

Supposedly Rudy is tops in the polls right now in terms of who would win in November of 08. However, he will never break double digits in the Republican primaries. He's a former mayor for goodness sakes, is pro abortion, pro gun control, pro gay rights. He announced his divorce in a city hall press conference to head off his ex-wife's press conference disclosing that he was living with a member of his staff who was on the city's payroll. The average Republican voter just isn't going to vote for a guy like that. His law and order reputation can't overcome that.

His single great achievement was his performance after 9-11. While mostpeople admire that, I don't think anyone is going to stick long term to a candidate whose best credentials are performing well after 9-11. It reminds them too much that Bush also was lauded for his performance then.

Pelosi will be to scared to even think about anymore hustling w/Rudy.

so would you figure that if he can win the primaries he could win the presidency?

yes, esp. against hillary

I predict Rudy will win the primary and general (I have predicted this for a long time now). What makes him extremely electable is that he is perceived as moderate and a likable guy. I also predict that he will do a great job in the eight years that he will be in office. He will also be non-controversial compared to the previous two or three Presidents.

So, do you predict the neo-conservative wing of the Rep. party to away quietly, too? :confused:

First you figure if the far right will feed or not w/Rudy and then who can deliver?

If the stars align I heard that Rudy will announce Condi for his VP at a wine tasting party organized at the Plaza in ny... ssshhhh

I'm not sure the GOP will be able to find their footing behind Rudy. He really is too liberal on some issues, for me.

The noeo-cons really hooked up when they became allied with the Christian conservatives. Rudy isn't going to appeal to them with his pro-gay and pro-abortion views. B2's administration has hurt the neo-cons politically, as their foreign policy ideas seem too militant and simple-minded to work effectively. The real conservatives have been stunned by B2's spending like a drunken sailor. I think the neo-cons will try to put up a struggle for the hearts and minds of the GOP, and though I hope they fall flat on their faces, Rudy may invigorate the neo-cons to come after him.

I shudder to think a sociofascist like Giuliani could win either one, the man is vile.

If I had to choose between him and Pelosi, I'd not be able to do so.

ROFL!

As soon as Limbaugh tells us who to back you'll have your answer.

It's about time we get a president with a good looking wife!!! For too long the US has been far behind in the First Lady race!

Nancy, Barbara, Hillary, Laura - uggh!

Judi Giuliani has it over any of the other contenders:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170805961.jpg

Why, look at what the Italians have:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170805991.jpg

We deserve better! If you haven't read it, there's an article about them in the New York Post (the paper version of Fox News) that is just amazing ;) :

Rudi adn Judi

Rudi seems to have a tiger in the tank!

Let's try that news story link again:

Rudi and Judi story