What happened to the opiate thread?
 

Who crossed the line and how?

a) I was personally offended by pat's thinly veiled insinuations and ill-informed misanthropic posts (so I reported it to myself).
b) pat engaged in personal attacks
c) i'm in a cranky mood

so i sent it to the corn field. And now I'm taking my own advice and getting the hell out of here and spend time doing something vaguely productive.

Enquiring minds want to know.

Good, now that you feel the way the majority of us feel about most of his posts on the OT forum, feel free to reload and fire again.

Okee dokee

mmmmmmm, Opiates.

Used to be able to get some REALLY good opium in Bed Sty.

But that was 20 years and a lifetime ago. And hash, killer blond.

Remember when you could roll 20 out of a nickle bag?

Panama Red, Panama Red
He'll steal your woman, then he'll rob your head
Panama Red, Panama Red
On his white horse, Mescalito
He come breezin' through town
I'll bet your woman's up in bed with
Panama Red

God, almost forgot about peyote buttons, mescaline and shrooms.

Want an all night woodie? Hit of mesc and a bottle of wine, yeah boy.

Good times.

Enjoying an especially nice Cab right now. Better for you, legal and no ones looking to bust a cap in yo ass while shopping for it.

I had 20 minutes into a post on Pituitary atrophy as it pertains to Opiate abuse and it's long term impact on one's ability to naturally manage pain. Hit submit to find out it had been wished away to the corn field.

No worries... That guy would have said I was full of ***** anyway. Who knows... I probably am...

It was an obvious trolling gesture from the start and only posted to further his myoptic view of the world. He posts something clearly controversial and then shlts on everyone who replies to the post. WTF

I have to admit that thread had me pissed enough to just shut off the computer and go to bed. Probably not a bad thing.

Whether or not I agree with him, Pat often expresses interesting perpectives on issues. Not so much with that one.

Jake,

I have to agree but dammit he trolls so much that when 99.9% of his posts are pure BS designed to incite riot or discourse that I almost never even open them. On average one or two of the things that he posts is interesting, but he shoots himself in the foot so often with the 99 other posts that its not worth our time to weed through them.

Ken Kesey's bus



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Miscreant.;)

Hey, my big brother got to do a story on the bus. Apparently the real one is rotting away in a field and some one has re-created an imposter, in an effort to relive the cross country journey. I can't remember all of the details, but then again, neither can they...

Man, that online dating is really taking a toll on you, Todd.

the trip happened before the law caught on to what going on a trip meant. Guys like KK were the early opinion leaders of today's baby boomers.

I am grateful to have had the opportunity to, uh, "party" in the bus back in college. It was rotting away in the middle of a field on Kesey's farm in Pleasant Hill, OR. Ken Babbs was hanging out with Kesey that night, telling stories from back in the day. A magical evening, indeed.

So you partied on Ken Kesey's bus and are now a loyal foot soldier for the Frat Boy President and an aplogist for the war in Iraq?

I would love to hear about your epiphany. What happened?

I imagine it's called "growing up". More should try it:D

Pat is an interesting anomaly. Sort of like Benny Hinn. I think it's best to simply ignore him as I think his main goal is to do exactly that he is doing - getting you guys riled up.

That is part of it. But my desire to rid the planet of oppressive dictatorships and freeing people from the enslavement of pre-enlightened religious domination is as liberal as one can be. I'm all about freedom of conscience. And most on this planet don't have it, like we do. That's not right.

...that stuff will make you go nuts :)

ps: and maybe he REALLY liked the kool-aid!

He grew up and opened his eyes. Its easy, try it sometime! :)

and why would an OT troll do such a thing ?

Back when I was a liberal (a bona fide living-in-San Francisco Democrat), liberals supported freedom and opposed oppression. Today's liberals have strange bedfellows.

Osama bin Laden is the new Che Guevara.

liberal wording can be misconstrued. The revolutionary baby boomers morphed into responsibile society.

the clueless have only revolution to relate to without the responsibility of a future. Iran is the current best example followed by the far left. They are in a constant state of tension. Tension breeds fear. Fear breeds hate.

Every conservative I know, including myself, was a liberal at one time. We have not changed. Liberalism has. It has become a parody of itself.

I was a conservative. Go figure. Actually, what's in a name? A rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet. There has been a hijacking of the definition of the term "liberal." If I thought it really meant losing your mind and supporting the forces of oppression and control, I wouldn't be calling myself a liberal. To paraphrase Rearden, I support freedom and oppose oppression. That's the way it's always been and the way it will continue to be. Don't be fooled by the Republican Party's new, strategic and purposeful, caricaturization of liberal thinking. If you do, you'll be supporting oppression and opposing freedom.

I've got a serious question. What is a 'liberal' and what is a 'conservative'? Depending upon the topic at hand, I fall into both categories (as do most people I know), so I get confused. If someone were to list a bunch of topics, I could state where I stand, but my positions would probably be split (almost equally) between both 'sides' depending on the subject matter. In general, I'm very conservative fiscally, but would be considered a liberal on many social issues. Please help me find my "label" :)

it's a timing in history issue concerning Lib vs Cons.

Same with terms Rep vs Dem. Parties shift over time.

Thanks for teeing this ball up perfectly. Fact is, the similarities between us FAR outweigh the differences. We are all Americans and if you believe the 'other guys' are treacherous terrorists, you've been listening to the Party lines too much.

Nearly everyone I know is a fiscal conservative. The vast majority are also at least somewhat socially liberal. Nobody wants tax money squandered. Almost nobody is dumb enough to actually believe it would be in our best interest to turn our backs on the less fortunate in society.

This perception that there is a vast ideological rift in America is deliberately cultivated for the purpose of accumulating power. We are being deliberately made to fight against one another for purposes of greed. That should give you an idea of what I think of Dubya and Mr. Rove's loyalty to my country.

i don't think he partied "electric"

This may be a stretch for the age group that populates this board, but I've heard JF Kennedy as a Democrat was much more conservative than any conservative today. Is that true?

his economic policies would be considered conservative in todays world. I think many of Bush's policies are socialism and so screwed up those policies were only used as bargining chips and destined to blow up anyway.

JFK was not as conservative as today's bible thumpers imo.

Yes, of course it was electric. You don't waste an opportunity like that.

full blown 9-10 hours of Zoink ?
Zoink meaning "what's my name, what species am i, what is i" ?
the full introspective happydance?

if so , good for you :D