Go for it, Columbus.
Although this isn't very historical. We've all seen this movie 100 times. You buy it and the spending never ends and/or you abandon it, disappointed.

Nobody REALLY cares if you buy it or not, we're just trying to be nice.

I've bought and sold a ton of cars over the years, and that thing looks like the biggest waste of time and money I've ever seen. After you put about 1,000 hours of your own time in it and lose 2/3rds of your money, you'll wish you had spent your time and money on something worthwhile. I've been there, and it ain't fun.

Why not just find a clean car that needs paint, and not much else? Another car will come along, and you'll wonder WTF were you thinking.

This is very true, the people who are telling you about all the pitfalls are the one who have done it. They know how much time and money it takes. They know the skills that are needed, the parts to be sourced, the shops to be contracted. This is not for the faint of spirit, or the lite of wallet. If you don't have the $12k to buy it, how will you fund the minimum $40-50k to fix it. This is the question you have to answer for yourself. Yes it would be great to save this longhood, but are you up to it? You know the answer, now accept it and move on.

I did it twice.

Once with an MGB that was pristine when I sold it for 20% of what I had in it (I give no actual numbers as I would cry).

And again when I dumped $30k into a '68 Camaro that I sold for $12k.

Both of these before I was 25 and I put no value on the hundreds and hundreds of hours I spent on them.

I will NEVER buy a needs car again.......EVER!


Learn from our mistakes.

Oh hell yes, great flicks...all of em.

BTW, it's "Duckie".

:p

WELL THERE YOU GO...
 

I just asked GOD and he does not like that 911 either.

yes. water goes downhill. rust usually forms there. The fact that there is rust at the TOP of the windshield should tell you something.

This car defies the laws of physics. If you buy it, you might cause a rip in the space-time continuum and kill all of us. For the love of puppies, please do not buy this car. The universe thanks you...

Dear, this is a good question with which to illustrate the importance of the advice you've received. This problem will absolutely, positively require that the windshield and trim be removed. When you are ready to place the glass back in, it won't make sense to re-use the old glass and certainly not the old seal. But first........

When the glass and seal are removed, you will find out the extent of the rust damage. The body of this car is sheet metal. You know that. Sheet metal is fairly thin. You know that. The metal windshield frame into which the glass is set is sheet metal. The sheet metal is formed into a sort of 'saddle' that the glass and seal slip into. The bottom of that opening, at the cowling.......where water has been accumulating periodically over the past thirty-four years......will not be "pretty." It most likely will need to be rewelded. Into the shape it was when it was new. The easiest way to do this would be to find a donor car and cut the windshield "saddle" out of that, and cut the rusted one out of this car, and weld the donor piece in. The entire dash will need to be removed for this operation.

This is just one of the surprises you would encounter if you bought this car. It would be cheaper and easier to buy a bare tub and build a 911 out of spare parts (using purple paint when the time comes of course) than to restore this car.

PG the more i read of your responses on this thread the more i realize this about you:

Life will BEGIN when you stop obsessing about what other people think about you or anything you do and start living it your own way. Get off the internet and go live your life in the real world!

Cmon and BEAT IT , BEAT IT , BEAT IT

We can get to 1000 replies if you guy's / gal's will just keep BEATING IT.

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Todd SmileWavy

I'm gonna go against conventional wisdom, here.

Get some of grandma's money.

Buy it.

Get the rest of Grandma's money.

Start a new thread.

Restore it.

Bury Grandma in it.

Post lotsa pics.

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust,
There lies Grandma,
In a bucket of rust...

DON'T DO IT!!! :)

mayonaise

I just spewed Diet Coke all over my screen....
TOO DAMN FUNNY :D :D :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1172675215.jpg

This reminds me of the 23' wooden sailboat I bought when I was 25.

The boat was a 23' bluenose sloop that had been badly neglecteds. Lots of rot in the Bad Places, broken ribs and missing hardware. It had been fiberglassed in places by a PO, which just held the water IN and worsened the rot.

The boat needed to be saved.

I had never owned a boat, let alone a wooden one, but I had read Wooden Boat for 2-3 years so I was all hopped up on tales of boat restorations.

I had no tools, no woodworking skills, no money. I was a full time student, so I didn't have much time either.

What I did have was ENTHUSIASM. I slaved away on the thing for 3 years. Every time I poked, I found more rot. Every time I tightened a plank, another one pulled from a rotten rib.

One day I spilled a beer on the deck, and within 10 minutes it was dripping out the keel bolts. I realized I was not going to win.

The boat never saw water, other than rain, spilled beer and piss. I spend almost 4 years slaving away at a futile project that soaked up all my spare time and money.

I sold the boat for $50 to a guy who restored boats and wanted the wood and fittings for another project. It was chainsawed and carted off in 2 trailer loads. It killed a part of me... the "romantic" that thinks enthusiasm and optimism can trump the naysayers and cynics.

However, with the lessons I learned, I now approach projects VERY CAREFULLY. Yeah, I'm still a sucker for "save me" projects, but I have a better understanding of the scope and commitment. I get enthusiastic but my "spidey sense" kicks in when I'm not only trying to convince others, but MYSELF as well.

So yeah, buy the Porsche. It's a piece of $chit, and it will be a disaster that will break your spirit. But, it seems you are determined to learn the hard way. Better with a 12K Porsche than a 200k "fixer upper" house.

I have re-thought my original post way back in the thread.

Go ahead buy it. I think that way you will learn for yourself.

We all should have a baptism of fire. Most of us do not get a chance to waste someone else's money on these "projects".

Wasn't there a thread about today's "narcissistic youth" recently?