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speeder 02-26-2007 07:50 AM

Looking for a picture to prove my point, this will do:

http://www.theautobahn.com/forum/showcar.php?do=overview&car_model_id=166

SLO-BOB 02-26-2007 08:01 AM

Speeder-I've been collecting cars for about 25 years. By now I can smell iron oxide hiding under a *****ty paintjob. I can smell that p.o.s. from here. It's a basket case that I wouldn't even use for a racing tub. I wouldn't allow the guy to leave it free in my driveway as it doesn't have many worthwhile parts on it that I would want. The few that it does have aren't worth the effort of the work and the hassle. Did you look at ALL the pics??

edit-And what a link to a 73 RS has to do with this abortion I have no idea.

porsche911girl 02-26-2007 08:02 AM

Wild hair thought, but...

does anyone else think this car would look neat with fresh Lilac paint (done properly, of course!) and speed yellow Carrera side script with matching yellow fuchs wheels and maybe even a duck tail to replace the dented decklid?

Of course, it could be me just thinking about it too much...:D

SLO-BOB 02-26-2007 08:03 AM

Ok. Some of you were right-I'm the idiot for wasting my time. I give up


Unsubscribed.

Shaun @ Tru6 02-26-2007 08:07 AM

I'm sorry Denis, I didn't know you wanted me to list my credentials when offering an opinion.

Managed this project recently and did a ton of work on the rear quarters, maybe 6 hours of bodywork on each side:

http://www.fasterfasterfaster.com/chris


of course there's this old project:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/150037-project-73-911-r-rs-week-1-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/151147-project-73-911-r-rs-week-2-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/152355-project-73-911-r-rs-week-3-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/153579-project-73-911-r-rs-week-4-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/155770-project-73-911-r-rs-week-5-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/160261-project-73-911-r-rs-week-6-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/160465-project-73-911-r-rs-week-6-2-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/163312-project-73-911-r-rs-week-7-part-1-a.html#post1316571

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/163313-project-73-911-r-rs-week-7-part-2-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/164648-project-73-911-r-rs-week-8-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/168296-project-73-911-r-rs-week-9-10-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/170863-project-73-911-r-rs-week-11-12-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/171943-project-73-911-r-rs-week-13-a.html





so expert? no. Damon, Dave at TRE, etc. they are experts. I've just got an informed opinion.

Racerbvd 02-26-2007 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by porsche911girl
Wild hair thought, but...

does anyone else think this car would look neat with fresh Lilac paint (done properly, of course!) and speed yellow Carrera side script with matching yellow fuchs wheels and maybe even a duck tail to replace the dented decklid?

Of course, it could be me just thinking about it too much...:D

I think you would be better off taking the $12K and back-dating your SC with Lilac paint and speed yellow Carrera side script with matching yellow fuchs wheels and a duck tail :cool:

Shaun @ Tru6 02-26-2007 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by porsche911girl
Wild hair thought, but...

does anyone else think this car would look neat with fresh Lilac paint (done properly, of course!) and speed yellow Carrera side script with matching yellow fuchs wheels and maybe even a duck tail to replace the dented decklid?

Of course, it could be me just thinking about it too much...:D

it would be great for Easter!

porsche911girl 02-26-2007 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SLO-BOB
Ok. Some of you were right-I'm the idiot for wasting my time. I give up


Unsubscribed.

No!!! You're not an idiot! If anyone is an idiot, it's me. I appreciate all of the sound advice you and others have given me!

fastpat 02-26-2007 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by porsche911girl
Wild hair thought, but...

does anyone else think this car would look neat with fresh Lilac paint (done properly, of course!) and speed yellow Carrera side script with matching yellow fuchs wheels and maybe even a duck tail to replace the dented decklid?

Of course, it could be me just thinking about it too much...:D

That's a bad car, Katie. Lot's of things visible in the exterior photos to scare me off, and I've been wrenching on cars and airplanes for years. The thought of what the engine compartment looks like, based on those exterior shots, is frightening.

I recommend you pass on this one, but that's just my opinion.

SCWDP911 02-26-2007 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by v8_ranch
Oh man, me thinks me smells page 23 comin' on...:eek: :D
Yep... I knew it. I am with SLO-BOB. Unsubscribed. Good luck Katie. I think someone gave you the best advice in backdating your dad's black SC. Probably be cheaper in the long run, but then I am truthfully no expert as to p-car restoration work. But lots of others here have given what sounds to be solid advice. Why don't you get dad and grandmother together and part of that $12k on making the SC into your dream car. And for the record, I think your idea of the lilac and the yellow would actually look pretty cool if done with the right yellow. You might try to talk someone into helping you out with a little photoshop work. Spend the rest of the $12k on finding someone to teach you how to drive a stick effectively!:eek: :rolleyes: :D

Good luck!SmileWavy

speeder 02-26-2007 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
I'm sorry Denis, I didn't know you wanted me to list my credentials when offering an opinion.

Managed this project recently and did a ton of work on the rear quarters, m

I don't have time to look at your links, but if you know the cars, how could you not recognize correct '73 RS flares? Do you know the visual differences between them and say, SC/Carrera flares? That would be the reason for the RS picture, which confused Bob and made him upset, I guess. :confused:

I'm not saying that it's necessarily a solid, un-crashed car. What I'm saying is that the photos are inconclusive. And if anything, they show very little visable rust. This looks like a '73 "E" coupe w/ RS flares in a weird but factory color and an incorrect engine, perfect RS clone starting point if solid and cheap enough. Maybe I missed the real horrible picture and someone can re-post it. This thread is way too long to wade through. All I saw was a spot of surface rust on a bare spot near the flare and a front shot that showed nothing(?) but a straight car. With the current values of early cars, solid cars w/ rusty pans are being resurrected all the time. The floors looked good in the photos. I was expecting way worse.

Dave @ TRE can help you with the flare question if you don't believe me, arguing on the web is pretty fruitless. I will say that plenty of the self-proclaimed early car experts here and on the "S registry" don't really know their ass from their ear lobe about the cars other than what the other effete concours sissies tell them. Ferry Porsche hated those people with a passion, and loved the customers who modified and raced their cars. I have forgotten more about the history of the company, (and particularly the man), than most sane people would ever want to know. And that was by the time I was 20, in the '70s. Call it OCD.

There is some deep Porsche knowledge around here, but it rarely belongs to the cry babies. I really don't care whether anyone buys this car, and the 24 pages baffles me. As well as the hurt feelings. But there is some WAGing going on, and the flare comment set off my alarm. They are better flares than I've seen on a lot of project cars of members here. :cool:

snbush67 02-26-2007 12:21 PM

Can someone please point me to the longest post ever?

Im guessing this crap is close.

porsche911girl 02-26-2007 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by speeder
I don't have time to look at your links, but if you know the cars, how could you not recognize correct '73 RS flares? Do you know the visual differences between them and say, SC/Carrera flares? That would be the reason for the RS picture, which confused Bob and made him upset, I guess. :confused:

I'm not saying that it's necessarily a solid, un-crashed car. What I'm saying is that the photos are inconclusive. And if anything, they show very little visable rust. This looks like a '73 "E" coupe w/ RS flares in a weird but factory color and an incorrect engine, perfect RS clone starting point if solid and cheap enough. Maybe I missed the real horrible picture and someone can re-post it. This thread is way too long to wade through. All I saw was a spot of surface rust on a bare spot near the flare and a front shot that showed nothing(?) but a straight car. With the current values of early cars, solid cars w/ rusty pans are being resurrected all the time. The floors looked good in the photos. I was expecting way worse.

Dave @ TRE can help you with the flare question if you don't believe me, arguing on the web is pretty fruitless. I will say that plenty of the self-proclaimed early car experts here and on the "S registry" don't really know their ass from their ear lobe about the cars other than what the other effete concours sissies tell them. Ferry Porsche hated those people with a passion, and loved the customers who modified and raced their cars. I have forgotten more about the history of the company, (and particularly the man), than most sane people would ever want to know. And that was by the time I was 20, in the '70s. Call it OCD.

There is some deep Porsche knowledge around here, but it rarely belongs to the cry babies. I really don't care whether anyone buys this car, and the 24 pages baffles me. As well as the hurt feelings. But there is some WAGing going on, and the flare comment set off my alarm. They are better flares than I've seen on a lot of project cars of members here. :cool:

Nice post!

porsche911girl 02-26-2007 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snbush67
Can someone please point me to the longest post ever?

Im guessing this crap is close.

I believe there are at least a few longer posts than this...the 'Show us your best front shot', 'show us your best butt pic', the 'ultimate jack olsen self-portrait thread', the 'ultimate back-dating thread', and the 'random pics that you have taken thread' come to mind. Oh, and the 'how fast does a cop car really go' thread, or something to that effect. And I'm sure I've forgotten some.

:cool:

speeder 02-26-2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snbush67
Can someone please point me to the longest post ever?

Im guessing this crap is close.

Not even close. Not in the top 100 longest. There are threads this long all the time in OT, every week probably.

Here is a 595 page thread for you:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125505&highlight=V8+911 +conversion+

porsche911girl 02-26-2007 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by speeder


Here is a 595 page thread for you:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125505&highlight=V8+911 +conversion+

LOL!

red-beard 02-26-2007 01:03 PM

And there are many with far less Porsche content.

There is always the amazing Zanick and his eRAM

http://66.236.61.177/showthread.php?s=&threadid=101451

and Son of Zanick

http://66.236.61.177/showthread.php?s=&threadid=135630

Porsche 02-26-2007 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by speeder
I'm not saying that it's necessarily a solid, un-crashed car. What I'm saying is that the photos are inconclusive. And if anything, they show very little visable rust.
Did you see the pics on page 9:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=330841&perpage=20&pagen umber=9

Looks like a lot of rust under the bad paint to be honest. May not be visible, but those rust bubbles suggest rust underneath. Don't know how much it costs for a bare metal respray in the US, but here it'll cost double the price of the car. I speak from experience.

And if you go to page 8 to look at the engine, you won't be too impressed too. Will need some work, and may be expensive, especially being the custom turbo it is.

I was encouraging the PO to get a PPI initially instead of relying on opinion, but those pictures do speak a 1000 words.

Btw, I'm going to stop posting in this thread - I think I've said enough. :)

lateapex911 02-26-2007 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
I'm sorry Denis, I didn't know you wanted me to list my credentials when offering an opinion.

Managed this project recently and did a ton of work on the rear quarters, maybe 6 hours of bodywork on each side:

http://www.fasterfasterfaster.com/chris


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Wow, I just checked out that link. How did I miss THAT story. I don't know Chris personally, but I have been the recipient of your graciousness Shaun, and I am amzed at that story.

If anyone did anything 10% that nice for me I think I'd cry! Nice job. How'd it all turn out? (I went back to the main site and saw the blue car.)

porsche911girl 02-27-2007 04:01 PM

misc. pics for anyone still interested...
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1172623891.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1172623996.jpg
What would cause the reflector to fade like that? Just lots of exposure to sunlight or something else? Same goes for the rubber on the bumpers. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1172624187.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1172624226.jpg

Smart people out there: How would the windshield top corners get rusty and start to seperate? People tell me rust goes where water goes--downhill. There shouldn't be rust at the top.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1172624271.jpg
it's the worst on the driver's side.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1172624374.jpg
Would these issues require a new windshield or new seal or what? And more importantly, how much $$ is that gonna cost?


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