Cant wait for the pics but before we get them...what is it about this car that makes it the one? Big list if you will!

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Tim,

For the sake of PorscheGirl, your post (and link) is perhaps the briefest and probably most effective so far!

Bravo!

That '72 looks great.

Best,

Kurt

This is a classic case of old vs the young. Old (er) people always say no to everything. That is because they have done it and are trying to tell the young ones not to make the same mistakes they made. Making a mistake is one thing, but loosing lots of money hurts. Your gramdma might have done really well and are able to buy you a 911 or she might have saved for a very long time for that 12k. IF she did, think of the many days she wanted to buy something with that money but didn't just so that she can give it to you as a college grad present. She will pay any price or do anything to see you smile. Think it through. 12k is not easy to save for an old person. At least have a ppi done first.

This is not what you want to hear but how about this, take the money and save a little tell her you want to buy a buy a house. a bad house, unlike a rusty 911, it will still make you money in th long run. I know, owning a house is dorky, a porsche is cool. Please think about it. My parents are retired and don't have much money but they are trying like hell to save money for my little boy (he's one)and buy him toys just so that they can see him smile and run away with it. That makes their day. If my boy can talk, and say grandpa, I will save this little money and will use it to buy a house with it one day, my dad will have a smile from ear to ear for a week. Just knowing that his hard earn dollar is not going to waste. Remember, a car is a toy and it is a money sucker.

The only way to learn is to loose money. Big money, so big that it hurts you really bad, then you will never make the same mistake again. I give the same talk to my 20 something year old punk kid employees all the time. Everytime, they call me old bastard (I am 38 years young) and don't know how to be cool and forget what it's like to be young. Yet they still rely on my for a pay check, how cool is that.

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Here is another 73 T Targa that will probably hold it's "value" better then the one you have your heart set on.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/326878-73-t-targa-fs.html

I do not know if it has been sold and it is a bit more but at least it appears to be rust free and safer to drive then having a light car with a Turbo.

Were the brakes/suspension upgraded on the car you are interested in?

I gad my heart set on a n early Targa one time, culd not keep the thought of the car out of my mind. Took it for three test drives, placed it on a lift to check out the under carriage and was about 5 seconds from placing a deposit until someone spotted bondo in the kidney bowels and in the rear quarter panels near the tailights :(

I would reccomend reading the book by Zimmerman, The used 911 story.

Good luck.

Chocoholic doesn't know you. Owes you nothing. Yet he took time out of his day to give you the best advice you are going to get. Your snide response is proof of your immaturity.

Oh and your disagreement on the cosign deal is an additional clue.


You need to understand that you are on a Porsche board. Many of the people you see talking about buying/selling/restoring P-cars have substantial means. It's easy to get into a 'if they can do it so can i' attitude, but remember-in many cases 'they' could write a check for 10 longhoods and not even notice it.

Grow up and take off the blinders.

Take a few moments and a good floor jack and work light and get under that car, you might not even need a PPI, on the pre-gal cars the BIG issue is RUST.

If you see substantial RUST under the car I would pass and not even bother with the PPI.

You can always repaint the car you have to a color you like, 12K invested in your current car can get alot done,

Just my .03

Todd SmileWavy

Porsche's are like a box of chocolate, you never know what you are going to get until you take a bite...

The real joy in owning a Porsche is in the driving. I car like this might make you feel good, but is not likely to last because it will be broken fast.

Buy a solid SC, do mainenance, and drive it. Do some DEs because you will never be able to appreciate what it can do (safely) on the roads.

I agree !

Unless you have plenty of spare time, space and money, and lots of patience to keep the car running safely or lots of spare money and a good P-mechanic to work on the car for you and patience.

I really don't want to hear a story about you taking a first ride with your grandmother and having a piece of the suspension ripping off a piece of rusted sheet metal on a hair-pin turn.:eek:

Thanks Berettafan. P-girl....this is the www. When you put something out in cyberspace, you're likely to get responses that don't match your personal opinion. One would assume you knew that.

If it weren't your grandma's money, I'd probably be a bit more open minded about considering the purchase. Trust me, your grandma won't last forever. She is generous enough to give you a gift that SHOULD be handled with the utmost respect...with an eye to the sentimental value it will represent for the rest of your life.....this isn't it.

You're young, still in college, not making a living, and have (overly) generous parents (and grandparents). You're considering the purchase of a high risk vehicle that will undoubtedly require significant resources to be what you are dreaming of...and even then, it's still a risk.

Do it when YOU can afford the time and financial investment necessary to do it right. You have more important things to do right now. In my humble opinion, of course.

If this bit of honest response to your inquiry causes you to take your ball and go home, so be it. You'll always be welcomed back here with some of the best experience and advice anywhere in the world. Or you can stay here, be a big girl and consider all comments...whether you like them or not. Then make your own choice.

Heck, I feel like I'm talking to my own daughter...except she's 10.

Did you borrow any money for college?

Well said! P-Girl, you need to understand that all of these replies to YOUR inquiry are from people who honestly want you to be successful and have the means to own and support the car of your dreams. Hell, I didn't get mine until I was 38, I just couldn't afford buying AND maintaining it before then. I dreamed of a Guards Red Turbo since the 70's and when time was right I bought it. I'm not saying don't buy it, I'm saying do it the right way; on your own. You'll feel so much more pride in the ownership when you worked for it. This is the last you'll hear from me on this subject, I've said my piece. Good luck in whatever decision you make.

Buy the car. I can see the future with 87% accuracy. Wanna read your fortune? Here it is:

You approach your parents with the "bribe" of better grades, and their initial reaction is "NO!" But you persist, and your parents are so desparate to see you bring home better grades (considering your lackluster academic history, including the recent transfer), that they (your mom especially) let themeselves believe that this might be the key. Your dad, however, is more resistant as he already is familiar with the high costs of Porsche ownership and is afraid of being saddled with the inevitable costs of repairing a Turboed engine (I'll get to this in a minute).


Fast forward 3 weeks. You have finals coming up, but you're not able to concentrate on studying because all you can think about is the $8K repair estimate from the Porsche mechanic after blowing the engine in a race against a WRX-driving classmate who challenged you during a midnight Taco Bell run, and Dad's been on your case about getting that non-running, oil-leaking, rusting heap out of the driveway. Grandma's disappointed, too.

Fast forward 6 months, and "Steve" who noticed your car on campus a while back, recently got the nerve up to ask you what happened to it. You two talk for a bit, turns out he's handy with cars, wouldn't mind looking at it himself, and he's kind of cute, too.

A year and half later, you're done with school (sort of), Steve has your car running (sort of), and the two of you are engaged (definitely). You two will have a cute story about how you met over a crazy Porsche misadventure, Grandma's looking forward to a wedding, and parents have gotten over the whole car/school thing and still love you.

Fast forward 35 years, and your fully restored purple 73 is up for sale. But there's no way in hell you'll let some local flipper get his paws on it, so you sell it to a rich guy from The People's Islamic Republic of Iraq for $16K (the early Porsche bubble having long been burst). The proceeds are used to buy two more cords of wood heat your farmhouse. You see, North Carolina had long since seceded, as did many of the southern states after the civil war that broke out after the impeachment of Mrs. President Clinton, but the resulting economic collapse and massive depression reverted the country to an agrarian pre-industrial society. So you and Steve are lucky to be in an old farmhouse with a Porsche in a barn.

So buy the car.

When I wrote the original post, I was asking you guys to judge the car, not judge me.

And Nader, that's great. That made me smile. Thank you.

Funny stuff Nader! But are you sure the check actually clears? (87% certainty, and all....)

I find that when asking a question on a forum there are 3 types of answers. The ones you want to hear, the ones you don't want and the middle of the road. I find that by throwing out the extremes of both ends I get the answer I was looking for. It also hepls to put on your "thick skin" in here. People will answer your question to the best of thier ability. It may not be in the words you use or like but it is an answer. Don't let it get you down. Don't let the car become consuming. do however get some pics posted fast, we have earned a few pics!
This is a good bunch of folks, we just don't sugar coat things.
Aubergine.......................yeah! My next one will be Aubergine

Picture a really really really small guy with wings sitting on your shoulder playing a violin,,,

That always helps me to make a decision that I really don't want to like not buying something that seems to good to be true.

Todd SmileWavy

PS... wishing you the very best in all your endeavors.

Well done Nadar

This is quite an amusing thread. I can unfortunately empathize with both sides of the argument. I am a middle-aged father of a collegiate daughter. I have owned and restored many different non-German sports cars through my life, entering Porsche-dum only in my middle age.

Is it wise to purchase this car? NO What is wisdom but lessons learned in the folly of our youth.

Is this an impulsive desire? YES

Will it be a cost effective means of transportation? NO

Is it a waste of family money? Each family member has to define this on their own.

Are you at risk for losing significant money in repairs, maintenance, insurance, and bling? YES

Would this have an adverse effect on your future? MAYBE Obviously, if this car is beyond your ability to safely maintain and drive you are placing yourself and whoever else would drive with you at risk. If you took that money and invested it for the future you may get a head start on things like kids, home purchase, and retirement.

Should you buy this car? Only you can answer that after you have weighed all of the issues.