....and heavily in debt, thanks to mr., excuse me, President Coke-head.


The internet is also international, for now, so hopefully a few people out there will recognize all Americans aren't idiots and have hope for the future.

OHHH Equality U know about me pushing the Retards down the stairs

sometimes i think you post provocatively just to get a response rather than that's how you really feel.

i accept your apology

SmileWavy

Your A Baby Killer
 

OHHH RIGHT U ARE... I think U need a Reality Check there son...Number 1, your leaders are elected by the people. Being a citizen and by living in the US you are under a social contract to abide by the leaders elected by the majority of the people...eg a Repblic. Living under that contract you bear certain obligations and RESPONSIBILTIES for what your elected leaders do in your name. You have the option of opting out of the system at any time, by moving to another country etc.

Number 2, As an American you enjoy a certain standard of living, which is greater or higher than most of the world. The USA consumes over half the goods and services produced in the world. Do you think that comes for FREE, by taking advantage of that Life Style you are indirectly responsible for the means that it was aqquired. If U feel that the USA acts in such an injust way, then perhaps you should renounce the ill gotten gains you use everyday and opt out of the system much like Teddy Kozinsky did.

So son don't give me this I'm innocent routine.. Germany was full of people using that excuse.

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your reasoning is deeply flawed. Fastpat will most likely set you straight soon...

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Like all Bleeding Heart Liberals U don't want to take MORAL RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. You would rather, like the Nazis before U, palm off your responsibilty unto the government and its leadership.

"Well Mr Swiss Banker, just where do U think all that Gold came from that the Nazis were depositing in your bank."

"Well MR On Ramp, just how do you think the money that makes up your paycheck every week is made." "Or how can the mfg make things so affordable for me to buy, how does he do it?"

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Odd statement coming from one who shops at Sam's Club (Walmart), a company notorious for forcing manufacturers to do just that.

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first of all, dont insult me by calling me a "bleeding heart liberal".

second, the crimes of our government overseas are not caused by the american people. sure we vote these elected officials into office, but when they betray us, what course of action do we have? nothing. "WE the people" are powerless. so what do you expect me to do, stop paying taxes and stop supporting funding of these actions?


so what about mfg, go blame corporate america for that, whose only obligations are to Wall St.. that's all
SmileWavy

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Well what do U want me to call U, when U take up the typical Liberal mantra of playing the victim by saying "WE ARE POWERLESS"...

Your not powerless you just don't want to do anything about it, your too comfortable. So long as U have your Surban Ranch House, Big screen TV to watch the Super Bowl on and your SUV parked in the driveway you won't risk anything. U will let the bloodsucking con men run Wallstreet and Washington.

And you will cry like all the other Bleeding Heart Liberals when those con men doing anything that spoils your moral complacency

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tell me specifically what I can do, and I will do it, tomorrow morning!

Don't feel so Bad UN Ramp, your not alone...there are others on this Board that delude themselves as well. Just admit it you take advantage of the Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap just like everybody else, thats the cost upon your soul that U payfor living in this Superpower of a Nation and reaping its benfits. For thats what it takes to be a Super Power. or any power for that matter.

tabs, I don't even know you, but you are loosing it.

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realistically..stop whining about what bad guys are running the place and what horrible things they do..accept the fact that your hands are dirty to and your not morally superior to them. Then U might see that all isn't quiet so black an white, that our country is not unique in the annals of history or current affairs.

Otherwise you can become an expat and live in a country that has maintained neutality for umteem years or U can wash your hands of the lifestyle brought to you by those Dirty Deeds and revert to a lifestyle like Teddy Kozinsky. One where you not profiting from ill gotten gains.

Time to crawl out of the bottle Tabs.

Black coffee. Lots's of it.

And then a buffet.

Spoken like a man thats never had the flicker of a thought pass through his skull. . Or from ear to shining ear with nothing in between but vast emptiness.

So....Precisely what power do we have?

Look at society...People put up with services that are below accepted levels and simply 'take it' (Jet Blue, anyone?). People have concluded, rightly or wrongly, that things are beyond their power to change. Corporations are now multinational with no loyalty to any country, philosophy or individual, only to itself. Elected officials seem to be totally disconnected with the people they 'serve', in fact they act as if they are some form of royalty. I see it, others see it. Most people (or sheeple as some have said) regardless of party sffiliation simply bend over. Those of us who rail against this kind of behavior and will NOT give in are somehow dismissed and ignored.

Back to the corporations...Wasn't it Eisenhower that warned us of the military/industrial complex? The manufacture and selling of arms to anyone as long as they have the cash? Who profits from continuous unrest in the world? Who is actively keeping the situation in flux? Without war it is possible that certain corporations would fold.

Wonderland is too rational a place to be used to describe our world.

They're lining up at the top of the stairs for you, tabs. They don't even notice you sneaking up behind them.

tabs, you sure can get their goats, eh? ;)

nomoneyguy, when the people want power, they will simply vote the jackarses out of office. The problem is folks aren't ready to take their medicine. When you suckle that teet, it's hard to let go.

Nope, not during any period they where in power that I know about(although I don't know all periods of U.S. history).

Biggest example would be during the 1860's, the sheer amount of rights trampled on by the Republican party during that time...Although granted, congress was eventually given constitutional power to abolish slavery. Today, if such a thing hadn't been in the constitution, rather than taking the effort of an Amendment, they'd of sidestepped it somehow. We've let them pull off too much too long.

I'm with tabs on this one, the U.S. is NOT innocent.