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lendaddy 02-21-2007 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by john70t

Valerie Plame Wilson was a CIA agent who reported to her superiors that the Niger connection was misleading/fabrication/false/lie/deception/fraudulant, at then had her life and career put at stake when Libby/Armitage/Cheney leaked classified information to the public.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

john70t 02-21-2007 07:51 AM

Did I get that wrong? If so please correct me. I think that's what her former function was, wasn't it?
Saw on the Today Show a "new revealing look" exposee at the facts and stats between Sunnis and Shia. This is 2007, where are Americans?.

fintstone 02-21-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by john70t
Did I get that wrong? If so please correct me. I think that's what her former function was, wasn't it?
Saw on the Today Show a "new revealing look" exposee at the facts and stats between Sunnis and Shia. This is 2007, where are Americans?.

Yes. You got it wrong. In fact, not a single sentence was correct. You couldn't really believe any of that so I must assume that you are posting incorrect info just to elicit a response...if not, you are so far off that it isn't even worth the effort of trying to help.

john70t 02-22-2007 04:43 AM

Way, way off. Your right Fint, it was Joe Wilson who discovered Bush was intentionally falsifying material in order to begin the war.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake_forgery
I wonder how the "military intelligence" guys here feel about an administration who would do such a thing (soley for petty political reasons)?
Would it be o.k. for Hillarys admin to do the same thing? Just curious.

Lend, you need to switch news channels once in a while buddy. A sheet of paper looks very thin when viewed from the side.

lendaddy 02-22-2007 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by john70t
Way, way off. Your right Fint, it was Joe Wilson who discovered Bush was intentionally falsifying material in order to begin the war.

You realize ofcourse that if this were true Bush would be in prison or at the very least impeached, yes? Someone does need a new news source but it's not me.

fastpat 02-22-2007 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
You realize ofcourse that if this were true Bush would be in prison or at the very least impeached, yes? Someone does need a new news source but it's not me.
No, should be in prison. Impeachment, viewed by the founders as a usable tool, simply doesn't happen often enough because the executive branch has figured out how to pay off the legislative branch. Odd since the legislative branch holds the titular pursestrings.

lendaddy 02-22-2007 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
No, should be in prison. Impeachment, viewed by the founders as a usable tool, simply doesn't happen often enough because the executive branch has figured out how to pay off the legislative branch. Odd since the legislative branch holds the titular pursestrings.
Yes I know Pat, every elected official outside of Ron Paul should be in prison, we get it.

fastpat 02-22-2007 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Yes I know Pat, every elected official outside of Ron Paul should be in prison, we get it.
Obviously you don't get it. Your writings demonstrate a virtual complete lack of understanding about the US government and its' 100+ years of murder and mayhem abroad.

lendaddy 02-22-2007 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Obviously you don't get it. Your writings demonstrate a virtual complete lack of understanding about the US government and its' 100+ years of murder and mayhem abroad.
Oh I get it Pat, which is why my statement is at least mostly correct in regards to your thinking.

nota 02-22-2007 05:52 AM

just an other BIG LIE from the GOP

people who ''support our troops''
want leave them in a shoot gallery
at great risk of death
and those who ''donot support our troops''
want them safe at home with their loved ones

maybe the truth is closer to
''support our military industrial complex cash flow''
is really what ''support our troops'' means

lendaddy 02-22-2007 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nota
just an other BIG LIE from the GOP

people who ''support our troops''
want leave them in a shoot gallery
at great risk of death
and those who ''donot support our troops''
want them safe at home with their loved ones

maybe the truth is closer to
''support our military industrial complex cash flow''
is really what ''support our troops'' means

Cute but false, at least in regards to elected officials. If it were true they wouldn't be messing around with non binding resolutions and would instead be voting to cut off funds.

FOG 02-22-2007 06:02 AM

Not a military intelligence guy but have had them work for me. The users of the common intelligence question the product (that is what intelligence is, a product).

Joe Wilson had as much business looking into the Niger yellow cake as I do in choreographing a classical ballet.

I and many others have quite rightly question the intelligence products. The intelligence communities have their own group think and have a stunning lack of touch with reality on the ground and hard technical facts. These color their products.

Mr. Wilson had an agenda and lacked the real qualifications outside of the caviar circuit to look into anything.

fastpat 02-22-2007 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by FOG
Not a military intelligence guy but have had them work for me. The users of the common intelligence question the product (that is what intelligence is, a product).

Joe Wilson had as much business looking into the Niger yellow cake as I do in choreographing a classical ballet.

I and many others have quite rightly question the intelligence products. The intelligence communities have their own group think and have a stunning lack of touch with reality on the ground and hard technical facts. These color their products.

Mr. Wilson had an agenda and lacked the real qualifications outside of the caviar circuit to look into anything.

Apparently not, his discovery of the fraudulent "yellow cake" basis has withstood vetting by even the most diehard neocons.

Those who have seen the "documents" purporting to prove that Iraq was buying this precursor to enriched uranium have stated that even an amateur could tell they were fakes.

FOG 02-22-2007 06:22 AM

Pat,

The allegation was that the Iraqis were attempting to buy, not bought yellow cake. The Iraqis did attempt to buy yellow cake. There is a difference.

FOG

fintstone 02-26-2007 11:12 PM

As expected, Murtha was unsuccessful and made fools out of both he and Grandma Pelosi:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17322591/


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