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Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half

Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/02/19/ccview19.xml
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
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Within five years, solar power will be cheap enough to compete with carbon-generated electricity, even in Britain, Scandinavia or upper Siberia. In a decade, the cost may have fallen so dramatically that solar cells could undercut oil, gas, coal and nuclear power by up to half. Technology is leaping ahead of a stale political debate about fossil fuels.

Anil Sethi, the chief executive of the Swiss start-up company Flisom, says he looks forward to the day - not so far off - when entire cities in America and Europe generate their heating, lighting and air-conditioning needs from solar films on buildings with enough left over to feed a surplus back into the grid.

The secret? Mr Sethi lovingly cradles a piece of dark polymer foil, as thin a sheet of paper. It is 200 times lighter than the normal glass-based solar materials, which require expensive substrates and roof support. Indeed, it is so light it can be stuck to the sides of buildings.

Rather than being manufactured laboriously piece by piece, it can be mass-produced in cheap rolls like packaging - in any colour.

The "tipping point" will arrive when the capital cost of solar power falls below $1 (51p) per watt, roughly the cost of carbon power. We are not there yet. The best options today vary from $3 to $4 per watt - down from $100 in the late 1970s.

Mr Sethi believes his product will cut the cost to 80 cents per watt within five years, and 50 cents in a decade.

It is based on a CIGS (CuInGaSe2) semiconductor compound that absorbs light by freeing electrons. This is then embedded on the polymer base. It will be ready commercially in late 2009.

"It'll even work on a cold, grey, cloudy day in England, which still produces 25pc to 30pc of the optimal light level. That is enough, if you cover half the roof," he said.

"We don't need subsidies, we just need governments to get out of the way and do no harm. They've spent $170bn subsidising nuclear power over the last thirty years," he said.

His ultra-light technology, based on a copper indium compound, can power mobile phones and laptop computers with a sliver of foil.

"You won't have to get down on your knees ever again to hunt for plug socket," he said

Michael Rogol, a solar expert at Credit Lyonnais, expects the solar industry to grow from $7bn in 2004 to nearer $40bn by 2010, with operating earnings of $3bn.

The sector is poised to outstrip wind power. It is a remarkable boom for a technology long dismissed by experts as hopelessly unviable.

Mr Rogol said he was struck by the way solar use had increased dramatically in Japan and above all Germany, where Berlin's green energy law passed in 2004 forces the grid to buy surplus electricity from households at a fat premium. (In Britain, utilities may refuse to buy the surplus. They typically pay half the customer price of electricity.)

The change in Germany's law catapulted the share price of the German flagship company SolarWorld from �1.38 (67p) in February 2004 to over �60 by early 2006.

The tipping point in Germany and Japan came once households twigged that they could undercut their unloved utilities. Credit Lyonnais believes the rest of the world will soon join the stampede.

Mike Splinter, chief executive of the US semiconductor group Applied Materials, told me his company is two years away from a solar product that reaches the magic level of $1 a watt.

Cell conversion efficiency and economies of scale are galloping ahead so fast that the cost will be down to 70 US cents by 2010, with a target of 30 or 40 cents in a decade.

"We think solar power can provide 20pc of all the incremental energy needed worldwide by 2040," he said.

"This is a very powerful technology and we're seeing dramatic improvements all the time. It can be used across the entire range from small houses to big buildings and power plants," he said.

"The beauty of this is that you can use it in rural areas of India without having to lay down power lines or truck in fuel."

Villages across Asia and Africa that have never seen electricity may soon leapfrog directly into the solar age, replicating the jump to mobile phones seen in countries that never had a network of fixed lines. As a by-product, India's rural poor will stop blanketing the subcontinent with soot from tens of millions of open stoves.

Applied Materials is betting on both of the two rival solar technologies: thin film panels best used where there is plenty of room and the traditional crystalline (c-Si) wafer-based cells, which are not as cheap but produce a higher yield - better for tight spaces.

Needless to say, electricity utilities are watching the solar revolution with horror. Companies in Japan and Germany have already seen an erosion of profits because of an effect known "peak shaving". In essence, the peak wattage of solar cells overlaps with hours of peak demand and peak prices for electricity in the middle of the day, crunching margins.

As for the oil companies, they are still treating solar power as a fringe curiosity. "There is no silver bullet," said Jeroen Van der Veer, Shell's chief executive.

"We have invested a bit in all forms of renewable energy ourselves and maybe we'll find a winner one day. But the reality is that in twenty years time we'll still be using more oil than now," he said.

Might he be wrong?

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I hope this comes along even sooner. $3k for an 4x8' panel is too steep right now, and it will take 10 years for it to pay for itself. I do have a couple neighbors that couldn't wait yet tho and have already seen their meters go backwards. This is something Im seriously considering.
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Re: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half

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Villages across Asia and Africa that have never seen electricity may soon leapfrog directly into the solar age, replicating the jump to mobile phones seen in countries that never had a network of fixed lines. As a by-product, India's rural poor will stop blanketing the subcontinent with soot from tens of millions of open stoves.
This photo was sent to me from a friend in Africa five years ago..........................it should of won an award, I love it as it's still in my office.

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My summer place is 100% solar. We produce more power than we can use let alone store and as our consumption has grown we have added more panels. A good quality 2' x 4' panel is less than $500. Storage is the key to making it more affordable. Deep cycle marine batteries are heavy and expensive.
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My summer place is 100% solar. We produce more power than we can use let alone store and as our consumption has grown we have added more panels. A good quality 2' x 4' panel is less than $500. Storage is the key to making it more affordable. Deep cycle marine batteries are heavy and expensive.
In NJ, they have the Net Metering Law so storage isn't an issue. You sell your excess power back to the electric company at the rate you purchased it. Basically, you use the grid for storage.
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Cell phone and Ipod batteries could be next http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/body_power_011128-1.html
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Let's hope your right, kach. After all we really need to undo this global warming and return the glacial pack to Yosemitie Valley . . . if for no other reason than for those smug Californians to STFU about their sandal wear'n in January.
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Good post - thanks. We have a remodel planned and solar electric is definitely on the list of things for the house. Our big question has been timing; I know new tech is in the pipeline and don't want to invest at the wrong time. For us the biggest problem is hot sunny days -- solar cells like light but not heat, and since a BIG air conditioner is also on the list I'm hoping to have my own glacial ice pack.
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LOL, this is me turning blue holding my breath.
It will probably happen eventually, but I expect it to be a ways away.
I think a gererator is a better bet for at least the next 10 years.
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LOL, this is me turning blue holding my breath.
It will probably happen eventually, but I expect it to be a ways away.
My thought too!

Dig out the predictions about solar energy from the 1980s or 1970s. (Look at some old Popular Science magazines.)

Plenty of people were running companies back then making all sorts of predictions. Look at what happened to the people who invested in such companies. (Hint: They lost money.)

That's not to say there won't be technological break-throughs that will make solar a viable energy source in the future, but there is going to be a lot of money made by near-con-artists "pumping ideas" about how "their technology" is that great break-through.

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LOL, this is me turning blue holding my breath.
It will probably happen eventually, but I expect it to be a ways away.
I think a gererator is a better bet for at least the next 10 years.
You probably look good in blue, but this is useless without pix!!!!

Anyway, it's all bogus:
http://www.capitalpress.info/main.asp?SectionID=67&SubSectionID=792&ArticleID=18115&TM=72664.66

Silly people!
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You probably look good in blue, but this is useless without pix!!!!

Anyway, it's all bogus:
http://www.capitalpress.info/main.asp?SectionID=67&SubSectionID=792&ArticleID=18115&TM=72664.66

Silly people!
Nice link, time for some wine this weekend.
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One of my favorite quotes is: "the stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones"

I think the oil age will be the same.
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Let's hope your right, kach. After all we really need to undo this global warming and return the glacial pack to Yosemitie Valley . . . if for no other reason than for those smug Californians to STFU about their sandal wear'n in January.
And February.
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Thanks for the very interesting article! You always post good stuff!
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