Like I said in my very first post, if he was legitimately caught breaking the law, that would be the end of the discussion. No sympathy from me; pay the damn ticket. As a matter of fact, he would have had a check in the mail and everything taken care of before he even mentioned it to me. He takes responsibility for his actions.

So don't get on your high horse and tell me "times have changed", infering that I'm coddling him or that he came crying to dad for help, or infering that he has no respect for the law. "Respect" does not extend to rolling over and accepting injustice or poor treatment at the hands of our public servants. Not in my household.

If he was in the wrong, so be it. He takes his lumps like a man and moves on. In this case, he met an overbearing cop with an attitude, and he will fight for what he believes is right, no matter how trivial. That is how he has been raised.

High horse ??

Jeff, let us know how it turns out.

I agree that LE agencies do a a lot to squander our good will. Blowing through traffic signals with a flash of the lights, speeding at 15 over the limit, or even just being generally condescending. It all adds up to people who give up on respecting LEOs.

As others have said, I've met good cops and bad cops. It seems the good ones don't do anything to bring the bad ones into line. These enablers behave a lot like another group of people PPOT likes to talk about a lot.