Please, more help with computers.

[Zeke]

I have a few bits left in one of the old computers and I can still use this one handily in the garage. I have moved quite a bit using Intellimover because some of the computers use floppys or zip drives, but the new one likes none of that. Either that or I'm too lazy to move the zip around much less the computer itself. So, I thought I'd email the last of the bits to myself.

I have to get online with my DSL. The old unit used a wireless adaptor (NetGear), but had an Ethernet port all along. I plugged a CAT5 into it and into the router and no connection. How do I go about configuring whatever is on board with the NetGear router? The light comes on on the back of the computer, and the router, so that's not the problem.

[rcecale]

Milt,

A great place to start is to make sure the two computers are in the same "Workgroup" and the same IP segment.

You can get some pretty decent instructions for checking these out here.

Hope this helps!

Randy

[slodave]

Start -> Run, type in cmd and hit enter. When the DOS prompt is up, type ipconfig, hit enter and report back with the IP info.

Dave

[masraum]

Yep, what slodave said.

We need to know if you are getting an IP address. From there we should be able to troubleshoot further.

[Joeaksa]

Assume that you are getting a light on the router for the port where the older computer cable is plugged in?

Right click on the start button and open "explorer" then when it opens click on and highlight the "local disk C" drive. Then right click on the "C" drive and select "sharing," then click in the box where it says to "Share this folder" then click OK.

If they are from the same workgroup they should be shaking hands now.

Joe A

PS All this from someone you really did not like on the Slick Willie thread. Imagine we can still help each other!

[Zeke]

Originally posted by rcecale
Milt,

A great place to start is to make sure the two computers are in the same "Workgroup" and the same IP segment.

You can get some pretty decent instructions for checking these out here.

Hope this helps!

Randy

Randy, the old computer is running 98 SE, but I'll try ot use some of that info to set it up. I already did the "Client for MS" change, but that wasn't enough. Apparently, I will have to assign an IP. Everything I do along these lines is first time for me. We all have to learn, I guess.

[Zeke]

Originally posted by slodave
Start -> Run, type in cmd and hit enter. When the DOS prompt is up, type ipconfig, hit enter and report back with the IP info.

Dave

Been bust lately, I go in spurts. But, there is no address, just a bunch of zeros. What's up?

[slodave]

Hi Milt,

Does it list:

I.P. Address 0.0.0.0
Netmask 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway 0.0.0.0

Since it is 98SE you could try at the command prompt: winipcfg - This should bring up a windows type program that'll let you release/renew I.P. addresses. Try this and see what happens.

What I.P. did your other computer have? Did it start out 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x? If so, we can try to force an I.P. on the Win98 machine.

Dave

[Zeke]

Originally posted by slodave
Hi Milt,

Does it list:

I.P. Address 0.0.0.0
Netmask 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway 0.0.0.0

Since it is 98SE you could try at the command prompt: winipcfg - This should bring up a windows type program that'll let you release/renew I.P. addresses. Try this and see what happens.

What I.P. did your other computer have? Did it start out 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x? If so, we can try to force an I.P. on the Win98 machine.

Dave

Yes, all zeros. Not "other" computer, it's the same one only I used a wireless adaptor since I never could get the Ethernet port to work. Just the lights come on.

[Zeke]

Adapter address: 44-455354-00-00
IP 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask 0.0.0.0
I "release" it and it said already released. I renewed and nothing.

I wonder why I can't open a browser? Or get a connection.

A little more help here, please.

TIA.

[slodave]

Ok, Don't know about the browser, but when you say router, how many ethernet ports are in the back of it? Is it a router/switch/wireless all-in-one?

Dave

[Zeke]

Originally posted by slodave
Ok, Don't know about the browser, but when you say router, how many ethernet ports are in the back of it? Is it a router/switch/wireless all-in-one?

Dave

4 ports in the back. Each light up if a cable is attached. The tower lights up on the bus when the CAT 5 is installed. This old 98SE PII 250MB Ram used the wireless adapter (NetGear WG511) before and it worked though the USB port. But, now it sits 4 feet from the router; I thought I'd just stick an Ethernet cable from the port on the back of the tower to one of the 4 ports on the router.

Do I need to find out what kind of Ehethernet card I have in the 98SE machine?

Another way I can do this is to take the wireless (WG 511) and put it back on that computer where it worked before. The WG 511 that I'm using on the new HP with XP is not an XP icon product. Maybe I should trapse down the the store and get a NetGear wireless adapter rated for XP.

[slodave]

Get to the device manager under 98 and see if the card is installed or is having a problem. If the router is setup for DHCP, and the network card is installed correctly, there should be no real problem. Buying an inexpensive wireless card may be the route to go, if you are at your wits end.

Dave

[Zeke]

I don't see it. I see AOL dial up and AOL something else, I assumed that it was DSL.

[slodave]

Is the port on the computer part of the motherboard or a seperate card? If part of the MB, possible it is not turned on in the bios. If you get the port turned on via the MB, you would most likely need drivers for it that you may not have...

Dave

[Zeke]

Ain't this a funny deal? The simplest things can take days to fix. I assume the port is a card, but I haven't taken the cover off the tower to see. It's down there at the bottom where the other slots are. Every computer seems to have an Ethernet port and I just assumed that when you plugged in the cable, it would work. I can always use the thing with the wireless adapter, but man, sitting 3 feet from the router seems like that's silly.

Say that it's on the MB. Is it a big deal to turn it on?

[scottmandue]

This may be a silly question but... can you pull the drive out of the old computer and install it as a second drive in the new computer?
Then copy everything you want off the old drive and when you are done return it to the old computer?

[Zeke]

Originally posted by scottmandue
This may be a silly question but... can you pull the drive out of the old computer and install it as a second drive in the new computer?
Then copy everything you want off the old drive and when you are done return it to the old computer?

Probably, but I've never done that. I'd like to keep the old one in the garage, as I said at first.

[slodave]

Scott does not have a bad idea. You can put it back into the old computer after you transfer the data.

Dave

[woodman]

Hey Milt.
Got the rotors. Aaron thanks you.

Guud luck with the PC. These things ruin my day daily.

Stevo