RockNRoll Induction Ceremony

[stomachmonkey]

Tuned in late. Just caught Patty Smith.

How many network execs do you think just had coronaries?

[the]

i heard some snippet about controversy about David Lee Roth not being allowed to perform? what was that about?

[stomachmonkey]

Maybe cause Dave is about as stable as Nitro. Who knows the real story?

[stomachmonkey]

Slash IS the last of the guitar gods.

[slodave]

Originally posted by the
i heard some snippet about controversy about David Lee Roth not being allowed to perform? what was that about?

He was allowed, but being Dave, he decided not to perform.

[stomachmonkey]

What just happened with Velvet Revolver.

They did a non VH song and the set was over.

Now we have Paul Schaeffer with Sammy and Michael.

Dave must be fuming.

Awful, sounds like "elevator VH"

Think it was unplanned

[sammyg2]

bah! What the hell does rap music have to do with rock and roll? Just another bunch of sell outs.
Shame on them.

[azasadny]

Now they're letting rap "artists" in the hall of fame, so it's over for me...

[Rick Lee]

What the hell does rap have to do with music or art? Well, maybe it has something in common with modern art, but neither are art.

I don't believe the VH drama will ever get straightened out. Ed has just lost his mind, Al is afraid to piss off Ed, Diamond Dave is itching to play, but his voice sucks and Mike is a fan favorite, but uninvited to play with the old band. Very sad.

[MichiganMat]

I can't believe what Im hearing. Rap is not art? Are you kidding me? Have you heard of this thing called poetry, its kinda related to rapping, been out a few year longer though. Let see, I can think of a few notable artists:

Tribe Called Quest
Wu-Tang Clan
Talib Kweli
Mos Def
MF Doom
Outkast
The Roots
Beastie Boys
Kanye

These guys have more in common with Rock-n-Roll's bad-boy roots than a lot of the candyassed posers playing guitars these days. Open your minds guys, its a whole new world out there.

[JavaBrewer]

Agreed. Last thing I want is to sound like is my Dad when I was a kid - "you call that crap music...". Rap does not *speak* to me but there is a good body of work out there that even an old white guy like me can appreciate.

[cantdrv55]

Yeah but they make up words so **** ryhmes. That's not poetry that giberrish.

[stomachmonkey]

Su-su-sudio

[notfarnow]

Originally posted by cantdrv55
Yeah but they make up words so **** ryhmes. That's not poetry that giberrish.

HAY now!

Humpty Dumpty was a big fat egg
He was playing the wall and then he broke his leg
Tossed it out the window three minutes hot
Hit the Rastaman he said *bloodclot*!

[Nostril Cheese]

speaking of rap acts that deserve recognition..

De La Soul
Mos Def
Beastie Boys
Run DMC

[Rick Lee]

Fine. Rap acts want recognition. Fine. Just don't muddy the R&R HOF with it.

[notfarnow]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
Fine. Rap acts want recognition. Fine. Just don't muddy the R&R HOF with it.

Then what about the blues? All kinds of bluesmen in the HOF.

Too much overlap between Blues, Rock & Roll, R&B & rap to start excluding, IMO.

[Rick Lee]

They're actually musicians. Rappers aren't. I can program a drum machine and keyboard as well as any rapper and I've only done it a few times many years ago.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
Fine. Rap acts want recognition. Fine. Just don't muddy the R&R HOF with it.

Exactly. Why not have a rap hall of fame? Like in the east wing of San Quentin or something. Or maybe at some morgue, as fast as those geniuses seem to want to kill each other. There are country, gospel, rock, and others that stand alone; why not rap? Oh wait - maybe rap can't quite do that...

[notfarnow]

I don't deny that there is a lot of crappy rap, and I can't stand the "gansgta" $chit either. I barely listen to any of it, but I have a particular soft spot for Beastie Boys.

It can easily be argued that Beastie Boy's Check Your Head & Ill Communication were as much rock & roll as rap. May not be to your liking, but there is real talent there.