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Question for you commercial pilots.
There have been a couple news reports lately of delays due to weather lasting several hours. 9 hours in one particular report. The passengers are held on-board for the entire 9 hours or whatever the extended delay is for.
Whats the logic in keeping all those passengers captive for such an extreme about of time?
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03-19-2007, 07:19 AM
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$$$. It costs the airline money to cancel the flight.
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03-19-2007, 07:29 AM
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Also, consider that once the aircraft vacates the gate it was assigned to, it's almost impossible to get back there. Gate rental costs are quite expensive and airlines go through great pains to ensure that there is an aircraft parked there almost continuously. Once your plane-load of people pushes back, there are probably two or three other planes in line that want that gate. You'd have to taxi to a remote part of the airport, have someone deliver a jet stair, deplane everyone, then if ATC happens to call you back saying "we have your clearance" and your passengers are who-knows-where and it's going to take you forever to get ready to depart, you just lost THAT slot as well. Big $$$
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What rights do the passengers have once they are on-board? Seems to me that sitting for 9 hours is almost being held captive. I'm not aware of any domestic flights that are even close to 9 hours. At what point can someone DEMAND to be released?
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03-19-2007, 07:41 AM
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The airlines do not want to do this. They want airplanes in the air, flying. Commercial flight crews have a duty time (total on duty time including flying) of 14 hours, and a flight time (actually in the air) of 10 hours. No execptions. Once either of these limits have been reached they have to stop whatever they are doing and get 10 hours rest, then they get to start all over again. When a plane full of pax AND crew sits anywhere for close to 9 hour unless they are flying a trip less than 1 hour, there is no way that they can legally do the trip. They not only did not fly the flight and thus making the company money, they blocked an airplane from flying and kept it out of service while it could have been working. With the cost of fuel the last 3 years airlines have been cutting expenses to the bone so there are few extra crews or planes to cover the load when a mess like this happens.
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