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There is no evidence that a supreme being created physics and then stepped aside, so that is something that you could "believe" in if you wanted to. |
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I don't know of any doctrine of communism that directs the killing of Christians. As a matter of fact there are many Christian communes. You guys want to have it both ways, when a Christian does something wrong it is because they are a Christian but when a atheist does something wrong it's because of their political beliefs. |
Well, it sort of has to be. You can't pin it on a non-existent thing. An atheist (by definition) has no religious belief. As such, it's a bit difficult to blame any action of theirs on such a belief (since it doesn't exist). Maybe academic, but I'd say the argument that Stalin killed religious people as a matter of political gain is probably more likely than "because" he happened to be an atheist. There's a distinction.
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Google "God of the Gaps". It's a phenomenon inherent to the limits of scientific understanding.
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If you'd like to review the evidence for evolution or the Big Bang, I will be glad to point you in the right direction. If you want to see evidence that a supreme being created physics, you're on your own. I'm not aware of any. |
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Oh BTW, Communism justified killing God-believing people to rid the world of the "defect". Sorta like when Muslim extremists kill innocent people because they are infidels. |
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My understanding of communism, is everyone working together for the good of the whole. The early Christian church at Jerusalem would be a good example of communism. Also the Puritan settlers in Boston.(Who where from all I know where very harsh, but you had the option of leaving their society, they didn't force you). When you combine atheism, humanism, and communism, you get a big mess. |
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read acts about the man and wife who withheld some of their cash from the sale of their property voluntarily it was not the church expected and demanded all they had so much so that a man, Ananias along with his wife, who withheld some of the money he gained from selling a material possession is condemned by Peter, Acts Acts 5:3-4: “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? And after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? Why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? Thou has not lied unto men, but unto God.” The failure to give all to the Commune was a lie, not to men but to God. Ananias’ reaction was to fall dead on the spot! |
I'm not here to argue who is better. My statement is there is nothing wrong with atheism. Just as there is nothing wrong with religion. There are plenty of good in both kinds. I don't understand why people start attacking atheists by saying we have communistic ideas. As an atheist, I just don't practice anything remotely religious. That's all. No organization. Now, when religion tries to roadblock me from my own choices that's where we have problems. I don't roadblock or care to roadblock a religious persons choice so tell me why do you want to impose your beliefs on to me?
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1) None of the believers was required to sell their property and donate it for the common good. There is no suggestion of coercion or of the members being obligated to stay in the group. The donations were free-will. 2) Acts 4:32 specifically says "All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had". 3) Now we come to Ananias and Sapphira who apparently counted themselves among the believers. Verse 2 says: "With his (Ananias's) wifes full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brough the rest and put it at the apostles' feet". So they counted themselves among the believers, and outwardly acted as if they were fully and willfully donating their possessions as the others had -- when in fact they were doing otherwise. 4) Peter sums up their sins this way: "Didn't it belong to you before it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men, but to God." So the sin was not the fact that he kept back his possession. Peter clearly points out that they were his possessions - "At (Ananias's) disposal" and there was no sin in that. But rather that he made a display of donating his goods as the rest had, when in fact they had done less. Their sin was the lie, not the failure to donate. |
I like to consider myself more agnostic than atheist, but I am as right wing as the day is long. I couldn't be more anti-communist. I am a heartless capitalist!
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I'm not a communist either (quite the opposite) but I also think the idea Stalin had to get rid of religion as an organized institution maybe wasn't such a bad one. |
Stalin's reasons for wanting to get rid of religion were quite different than yours, Jeff.
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