Any bayonet experts?

[roadhog]

I found this bayonet in my yard. There was an early Civil War battle fought here,but a soldier from some other time could have brought it home.

The grip has rotted away,the sheath is metal.If the pics come through clearly you will see the rifle attachment points.

[Drdogface]

The most common bayonet in Civil War (War for Southern Independence) times was the triangular one with no sharp edges. The attachment to the bbl was a round base which slipped over the bbl and rotated to lock in place. There was also on some rifles, a sabre bayonet some with ominous curved blades..pretty long. The handle of these had a recess which slipped over a fitting on the side of the bbl.

The one you found looks to be much shorter in length than either of the ones I mentioned but beyond that a suggestion of it's date would be only a guess.

Perhaps Tabs will see this post of yours and, if so, will know tons more about it. Jeff Higgens would as well as well.

[Drdogface]

Here's some pics I found:

In order, saber bayonet, saber bayonet handle, triangular or socket bayonet, and it's attachment.

[on2wheels52]

Looks Mauserish, could be from any number of countries.
Jim

[tabs]

Mauser from WW2. Its a mid 20th Century Bayonet.

[red-beard]

Somebody's kid was playing with his father's WWII bring back.


OOOOOOOooooo. He's gonna get it!

[Drdogface]

Good guess !

[roadhog]

Thanks, now I need to find a rifle to attach it to.

Imagine the reaction when meeting someone in the woods while deer hunting with bayonet affixed !

[red-beard]

Mausers are for sale every month in most of the gun magazines

[Venetian]

Drdogface

I have a bayonet very similar to the first one you have posted. It has a metal scabbard and the date 1863 and a french name scribed on it. Do you know the history of this style bayonet?

[Drdogface]

Probably from a so called Zouave rifle...my best guess...but again better historinans will chime in...Tabs and Jeff. The South did not have much going in the way of manufacturing at the outset of the war and imported from the Brits and French. Many Southern troopers were originally equipped with flint locks. The South as you will recall was mostly agricultural and the North had most of the industry. I dunno how many Northern companies were contracted to make the 1861 (Springfield) musket but it was more than ten or twelve. Original Springfields actually made by Springfield bring a premium but other makers' rifles were just as good and except for the 'type two' all parts were interchangeable.

Too bad Fast Pat was banned...he is a real historian when in comes to this period. Howdy Pat...I know you are still watching ;-)

[Drdogface]

Oooops, a little research tells me I'm incorrect about the Zouave influence in the South. Seems it was the North that had some Zouave influence. The name, however, does come from some colorful historical French units. The bayonet was common on Zouave rifles built by Remington. Other shorter rifles...Musketoons...also had such style bayonets. Most Civil War rifles used the triangular bayonet.

[chibone_914]

Yes, M1884/98 mauser bayonet. Here is what it used to look like.

[chibone_914]

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by Venetian
Drdogface

I have a bayonet very similar to the first one you have posted. It has a metal scabbard and the date 1863 and a french name scribed on it. Do you know the history of this style bayonet?

If it was French, it was more likely designed to cut cheese then kill people, prolly a lost peice of cutlery from some grandmas pantry.

[red-beard]

French Cheese Slicer....we'd best not use the other form, or the wind will blow foul

[Venetian]

Well there definitely does not seem to be any dried blood on it!

[Joeaksa]

As long as we are talking about bayonets here. How about this one?

Picked it up at a Montana gun show 20 years ago and paid almost nothing for it. Understand that they are getting to be worth a descent price these days.

Believe that its a 1914 Swiss bayonet but not positive.

Joe