"There's a segment of the shooting community that will shoot anything that moves"

[Overpaid Slacker]

...like Idaho National Guard TANKS!

Iduho just seized the stupidity crown from Floriduh.

JP

[Jeff Higgins]

Wow; quite an article. I'm not sure where to start. The anti-gun, anti-shooter bias is just too pervasive through the whole article. Imagine if big city headlines regularly claimed that "gun enthusiasts" had stepped up their liquor store robberies. I mean if they have a gun, they must be an "enthusiast", right? I'm sorry; folks out shooting in this area are criminals that are using guns. Not gun enthusiasts breaking the law. The point of view presented in the article is very telling of its author's position.

[Overpaid Slacker]

Jeff -
I agree. But anti-gun bias in "mainstream" writing about any aspect of gun ownership or use is not exactly "news". I'd posted it for the AYFKM nature of the events, not the author's p/o/v.

Personally, I'd like to see the ID Nat'l Guard revise its rules of engagement. One vaporized criminal schmuck and potshots at our national guardsmen would dry up pretty quickly.

The author reminded me of the "informed" commentators (especially on that socially conscious ESPNRadio) talking about Bears' Tank Johnson... Hey he's a criminal and violated parole, I stipulate. He should go to jail, regardless of the nature of the violation. But these deep thinkers repeatedly mentioning in breathless, scandalous, even incredulous tones that he had over one thousand rounds of ammunition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! display that (i) they know nothing about gun ownership, and at least as importantly, (ii) want not to know or understand anything about gun ownership.

I mean, only a mouth-breathing neanderthal would need over one thousand rounds of ammunition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

It does have a silver lining, though: anyone who is shocked, SHOCKED!!!!!!!!, by someone having over one thousand rounds of ammunition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! and mentions it thusly has just declared themselves completely ignorant about responsible gun ownership and absolved you of having to listen.

Like wearing a sign that says "I have no idea what I'm talking about, so there's no need to be polite, you can disregard anything I say on this topic henceforth". Similar to those who espouse "Bush=Hitler" or "No War for Oil." ... oh, sorry, I was expecting you to have, or be able to make, a point, but you're just another moron. My bad, actually. I shouldn't have expected anything of you. In fact, perhaps I'm oppressing you with my expectations, which are wholly unsupported by precedent. mea culpa.

JP

[teenerted1]

i didn't notice an anti-gun/shooter lean to the article...more like an anti IDIOT tone.

[cowtown]

Originally posted by Overpaid Slacker
...like Idaho National Guard TANKS!

Iduho just seized the stupidity crown from Floriduh.

JP

I'd bet the tank would only have to return fire once for the object lesson to be effective.

[pwd72s]

A retired Navy CPO I know told a tale of an idiot sniping at the destroyer he was on with a .22. He wanted to fire back with the 3" gun. HOOT! The local (Washington State) cops took care of the problem, but the thought of a 3" gun firing back did give an image...

[Jeff Higgins]

I should provide some background and explain my position a bit further. First off, though, I would like to see photos of a tank, coming in from this area, with bullet strikes on it. Until I do, I will kind of doubt the story just a wee bit. Here's why.

We have several public duck hunting areas up and down the Snoqualmie River Valley. This valley is about half an hour east of Seattle, even closer to our booming Eastside megolopolis of Bellevue/Redmond/Kirkland/Issaquah. There is a lot of money in the area and, like many areas around the nation, suburban encroachment is starting to have an impact as well. The great unwashed masses are pushing suburbia out; the money wants some room. In one case in particular, the money looking for some elbow room bought an old farm adjacent to one of the duck hunting areas. She apparently was shown, and subsequently bought, this property in the spring or summer. It sure as hell wasn't during duck season...

You can all guess what happened during the next duck season. Guys started, well, shooting ducks. Like they had forever. Right next to her property. Now the farm house, that she had already set about renovating, was at least half a mile from the boundary of her property, and therefore, the public hunting area. That didn't stop her from complaining. Complaining a lot, like only a displaced urban kept woman can complain. Boy did she ever raise hell about the "danger" to her and her loved ones from the incessant gunfire so close to her home.

Well, the guy fielding the complaints (sheriff? deputy? clerk? can't remember...) was a pretty savy guy. Probably a duck hunter. He had her put it all in writing; every last detail, and file it in whatever official manner one files such things. He wanted it in "her own words" so nothing got lost in translation. Heh heh heh...

Her undoing was her assertion that she both regularly "heard bullets whizzing over head" when in her yard, and that some "bullets had even impacted her house and broken windows, too". Clearly had no clue whatsoever what she was talking about, and was making up the whole story. Shotguns,, half a mile away, with intervening trees and terrain. And bullets??

She simply did not like the idea that folks were hunting next to her property; the noise was barely audible in her yard, much less in her house. She was willing to lie, in a sworn statement, to get it shut down. Now I'm not saying our tank drivers are lying (actually, more likely the reporter), but... I still want to see tanks with bullet strikes on them.

[nostatic]

Originally posted by Overpaid Slacker
over one thousand rounds[/I] of ammunition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

JP [/B]

damn, thanks for reminding me. I need to order more ammo...I think I'm down to just under a thousand rounds. GASP!

Well, unless you count the 250 rounds of JHP stored for a "rainy day."

[slakjaw]

I see a lot of you posting in this thread want to "shoot the messenger"

Pitty

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally posted by slakjaw
I see a lot of you posting in this thread want to "shoot the messenger"

Pitty

We shoot anything that moves.