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M.D. Holloway 04-27-2007 10:13 AM

Maybe she got some kickbacks from rich Daddies? She prolly also got some candy from the student loan folks as well? Heck, why stop there, she may have even been in cahoots with some folks in records - changing grades and credits?

Refer to Axiom #4.

There is no telling the depth and width of this woman. She could single-handedly bring down what is arguably the finest technical institution in the world (behind the Air Force Academy that is).

Overpaid Slacker 04-27-2007 10:14 AM

An MIT degree is worth today whatever it was worth last week, or twenty years ago.

You still need to complete the curriculum to get the degree, whatever the "credential" of the person minding the entrance.

Before I went to Webb, I looked seriously at MIT, and it was not exactly "curving" grades or diluting curricula to accommodate folks who had no business being there, intellectual-horsepower-wise .

Frankly, I was more shocked (shocked!) to find out (via Paul Harvey) that the guy who was Crayola's color-checker for 40+ years announced upon his retirement that he was color blind.

Not that he fabricated a degree in color-seeingness or anything...

JP

tabs 04-27-2007 10:55 AM

Whoa..guess I won't be buying anymore Crayolas anytime soon....guess I will have to use something less to write my letters to Politicians and Newspapers with.

nostatic 04-27-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by LubeMaster77
what is arguably the finest technical institution in the world (behind the Air Force Academy that is).
both behind Caltech, but I digress... :p

nostatic 04-27-2007 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by tabs
Whoa..guess I won't be buying anymore Crayolas anytime soon....guess I will have to use something less to write my letters to Politicians and Newspapers with.
pricking your finger and writing in blood is always a good choice. Makes it more personal and shows that you really care...

tabs 04-27-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by nostatic
pricking your finger and writing in blood is always a good choice. Makes it more personal and shows that you really care...
Naw I tried that, thought it would be more attention getting, they just think your a nut case...especially when U start calling them everyday to see when they will respond to your missive. However the Crqayons make them think that your just an average American..and if your mad enough to get out your Crayolas to actually write a letter..well then there must be more average Americans out there as well who share the same sentiment.

I also found using bad Grammer and poor spelling is also requist to be paid attention to, in that if you use proper English they think your someone intelligent trying to get listened to. Then they really ignore U.

kach22i 04-27-2007 11:16 AM

Putting a face to the story....................


http://alumweb.mit.edu/clubs/newyork/BrowseWeb.do;jsessionid=E62AA100ED3D8325B691202A67 0F9803?webSiteId=SI000621&webPageId=P007&photoId=0
http://alumweb.mit.edu/upload/NY/IMG_5222_12454.JPG
Ken Wang and Marilee Jones, Dean of Admissions at MIT

http://www.winsor.edu/pages/sitepage.cfm?page=76213
http://www.winsor.edu/pages/sitepage.cfm?page=42965
http://files.schoolyard.com/winsor/c...eNight_025.jpg
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We are creating human doings these days, not human beings," cautioned Marilee Jones, dean of admission at MIT, in her talk to senior parents at this year’s Class VIII College Night at Winsor. More than 50 parents attended the evening, held September 19, 2006, and organized again by Winsor’s director of college counseling Jennifer Graham.

Dean Jones speaks around the country on the topic of how stress is making students as young as elementary school age physically ill and the demands of the college admission process are contributing in large part to the problem. In her Winsor presentation, she discussed how the pressure to compete and participate in a large number of adult-organized activities leaves little time for students to explore their own creative interests and thus develop a strong sense of self.

Dean Jones spoke frequently about her own experience with her daughter’s college process last year and admitted to making many of the same mistakes she now cautions parents against.

Her message, liberally infused with humor, is that parents need to help their daughters “lower the flame” and make decisions that are appropriate for them. This may mean stopping an activity that no longer gives them pleasure, removing technology from their bedrooms to ensure that there is a quiet, safe retreat for sleep and listening to what a student really wants rather than what the parent feels is necessary for admission to certain colleges.

For more on the subject, parents can check out Dean Jones’ new book, co-written with a pediatrician who specializes in adolescent development. Titled Less Stress, More Success, the book was published earlier this year by the American Academy of Pediatrics.

You can also read more of her thoughts on the MIT Web site: http://www.mitadmissions.org/Marilee.shtml.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-10-08-stress-book_x.htm
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_pho.../jones-mug.jpg
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Q: Why the extra focus on college admissions?

Jones: It can be a big driver. Many of us in college admissions have set standards that are so high, and we've been sending the message that kids need to be perfect. We get rewarded by U.S. News rankings for admitting those kids, and as a result we're caught up in it. The other piece is that we have a tendency to want kids to look alike. We want them to take so many AP classes, we fixate on the scores, and oh, by the way, they should have so many activities and they should also be leaders. They get headaches, or migraines, or stomach problems — all the classic signs of stress — because the adults in their world are holding them to such a high standard. There's no room to fai
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060918/asp/atleisure/story_6760331.asp
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060918/images/18mit.jpg
MIT dean of admissions Marilee Jones (right) with her daughter Nora Jones, a college freshman (AP)


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Now, from the pulpit of a university famous for its overachievers, she has become perhaps the field’s most visible and outspoken champion of revamping admissions. “Nothing will change unless we get up, look ourselves in the mirror and say, ‘I’m responsible,’” Jones told her admissions colleagues. “We have to look ourselves in the eye and say, ‘Am I an educator, or am I marketer?’”

the 04-27-2007 11:30 AM

That's an easy decision, they had no choice, they had to fire her.

VaSteve 04-27-2007 02:33 PM

Doesn't anyone check this ****? How does this still happen..... 28 years? Well, I have something new to add to my management corruption briefs for clients.

911pcars 04-27-2007 05:38 PM

Her resume is amiss, however her message is quite accurate. We've lost a generation of students who didn't go/wouldn't be going to college and alternative training wasn't provided for them. Same for those who made it to college and dropped out for one reason or another.

tabs 04-27-2007 05:45 PM

Whats so hard about getting a College degree, even someone like me got one. My piece of paper has University of California printed on it...Woooohoooo.... So its in Rubber Stamped block letters but what the he11 who is going to know the difference. ...

DavidI 04-27-2007 07:10 PM

I applaud the decision to fire her. People need to stand up for what is morally correct, David

Aurel 04-28-2007 04:29 AM

Illegal immigrants who come to the US can do good job too. But they are illegal nonetheless. Why would I have gone through the legal channels, gotten a college education, if I could have come in illegally and fabricated my degrees? It is not a matter of how good she became at her job. It is a matter that she went in front of people who had followed the rules. Just like the *******s who cut you on the highway to get ahead.

Aurel


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