Too bad you didn´t get Al Gore.
 

Not a fan of politics in general and normally try to stay out of such threads for lack of both knowledge and enthusiasm.

However, I just saw a long interview with Al Gore in Swedish television and I was really pleasantly surprised. He came out both humble, knowledgable and generally amicable in a genuine way.

What´s your opinion on Al ? Did he fool me ?






Disclaimer: 'Spell Check' did not work..

You can have him.

What makes you think we didn't 'get' him?

I personally think he is a very good guy. Met him once at a fundraiser. He can be a bit awkward in social situations - but he is bright and committed and genuinely passionate about important issues.

In my view he makes just about everyone in the current administration look like a cynical, corrupt and incompetent clown.

And despite the ridiculous discussion about it on the board An Inconvenient Truth is one of the most important films that has been made in a long time, and has already done a great deal to bring climate change to the front of many agendas around the world.

He's a good man, who has been much maligned for the usual partisan reasons.

Livi, dont start this crap..Please!

This is one of those threads that start anarchy and you are going to get what your asking for. I did notice that people from socialist countries appreciate him.. So we will GLADLY give him a one way ticket and you can have his socialist a-ss. OK! Hillary, Obama, kennedy and McCain too! I hear your an imtelligent guy. So dont beat on a bee hive!

And despite the ridiculous "documentry" Inconvenient Truth, Al is polling better than Hillary.

I was not looking to start yet another ridiculous flame throwing political thread.

I was curious to where he stands generally and on important topics.

And whether his nice impression on television was a lucky strike or if you agree (like Dottore I suppose).

Simply a neutral, to the point, description of what he has on his agenda and why you approve or not.

His agenda is just like Hillary's -- power.

Al Gore comes from a Political Family. his pops was a Senator from Tennesse. People who knew Gore wondered if his heart was really in it when he ran for President in 2000 or was it that he was trying to please his family. Maybe the test of time and what he does in the futher will determine if that view was true or not. It does seem that Gore is much happier doing what he is doing now, and maybe he can be more effective being on the outside of the process rather than inside.

Dottore,

You and Livi are stirring the pot...your going to get critical mass..

Hitler was good at this type of "Brain washing" nonsense. Tell someone that 12 inches is really 6 in length over and over and after a period of time, the individual will begin to believe it. Its proven. Humans caused "Global Warming" When I was a kid, it was an Ice Age..
Really?...Climate change is the most important topic for your advocates of big government controlling everything. Don't give me that Gore climate know it all SILLINESS. The climate may slightly be changing and nobody knows why..You're the type of guy who believes the moon is made of cheese and want to destroy anyone who doesn't believe his dogma. Al Gore is an imbecile. He didn't design the INTERNET and he is not a climatologist. The forking head of NASA doesn't believe it..He's wrong..Right? and...If he was right, what can you do about it. Why don't you cash in and save the planet from your CO2 if you believe that crap. Anyone who has studied statistics knows that we do not have enough sample data to come to this conclusion. This would be a exceedingly small sample with an undetermined "Normal Distribution" So, since we are so smart tell me what 1 sigma would be in temperature variation and how long a period of "t" time... I would like to ask Al Gore this! The percentage of CO2 is very small and the concentration delta is negligible. among all the other chemical constituents.

One thing assured, it will get big brother in your cool-aid..

Don't get me started ..:mad:

duh! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I mean, big news flash here. What you do with your power is what counts Glenn. Do you use it for good, or evil?

You're a great example yourself, there's certainly a lot of engineering power in your brain. Do you use it to tear down other people's ideas, or do you use it to build a better mousetrap?

off to install some ER polybronze bearings on my springplates. My god you should see how shiny these things are.;)

He does not have the negative baggage that Hillary has. He also has maintained himself in the media. He certianly has lots of Hollywood friends he could pull money from. If he runs and gets the nomination, I would say he has a very good chance of winning.

Plus, those computers looked cool in the SNL skit!

You mean like Global War on TerrorTM versus The Iraq War? Did you know that bumpersticker MFG's increased the length of stickers to accommodate the longer phrase? True story.

I don't want to wind you up. I am not a scientist but have a number of very serious and senior scientists in my family and circle of friends. All of them applaud Gore for what he has done to promote this issue and bring it to the worlds attention. The subject was THE issue at the last G8 summit - even though your petulant frat boy Pres. spoiled any progress on the issue.

But people are thinking about global warming - and if you don't think this topic is an issue, you don't travel enough. It IS an issue everywhere we have been this year. The weather is increasingly f___ed, and I for one am happy to believe it when serious (yes serious) scientists tell me we are to blame.

In any case here's a question: Is there anyone out there today who seriously believes that Bush was a better man for the job than Gore? Anyone?

Robert,

RELAX!

Forget about the climate issue for a second. The man has to stand for other things that are equally important.

What is Al´s opinion on for instance economics, health care, foreign affairs, guns, abortion, Iraq, religion etc etc etc..

Shaun,

Because I am a conservative doesnt mean I believe what "W" is doing..You should know that by now. I dont know who to believe. We were told that Saddam had WMD's and was a threat. He did and sent them to Syria IMO. Hear me out.... I think we have spent enough time training the Iraqi police.. Turn it over to them and get out...Dont say when...Just do it. NOW....My *****..If this country was under threat of WMD's, terrorism and biological weapons...Why the hell did Bush leave the borders open...How many bad Arabs entered with the Mexicans and what from the canadian side? Like I have said I'm beginning to think the whole global terrorism thing is a ruse. I would close the borders go find Bin Laden ands smoke him...

Done deal..

he speaks from both sides of his mouth.

I want someone who is

A. SELF MADE>

B.IF he tells me to live a certain way, he lives it him self!

C.believes that the Government is FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE

D. believes in a SMALL government. (the government should not be the largest user of paper nor the largest employer of people.)

Al's a one (non) issue nut-job. If he goes up against Hillary and appears to be leading in the primaries, he'll likely find himself in an unfortunate auto accident in time for her to take the nomination anyway. So....no worries. Al doesn't have a chance. Even if he does.

I would appreciate not confusing "W" with conservatives. Livi you got what you wanted.:) Remember Buddy..This is an spirited site..Dont> "Yell fire in a theatre" unless you want to start a frenzy. I'll calm down as long as you forgive my fumble finger spelling too. I'm always doing three thing at once and dont check my spelling and grammar. I'm really OK. Anyway- I have troubles with this administration too. I dont believe we are being told the truth about most things in general. I didnt beleive ANYTHING Clinton and Gore said either. Clinton was an inspiring mofioso with the media protecting his arse constantly. I would still pick Bush over Gore. You know why..I can still own guns and do...Big Ones..and scary ones he would think...and you know what? I have never shot anyone..unbelievable!

To say that many of you appear a tad skeptical to the man seems appropriate. :D

Robert, you've got to eat your own here. Just like Muslim's need to hit the streets calling for Bin Laden's death, conservatives need to do the same with Bush. Otherwise you're going to be stuck with the association I'm sorry to say.

Shaun,

I have had a big mouth precisely about how he has turned his back on conservative ideology. Nobody has been louder than me with the exception of Jim727 and a few others about his willingness to compromise his political party and constituency. He's a fraud and needs to go. I am beginning to believe in the trilateral commission hoopla and the one world government rhetoric.
I have been sent numerous URLs on some sort of conspiracy to unite all of North America into a North American Union with a common currency.
It seems plausible with these neo-one world government crackpots you hear about...I heard Gore was a big donor and advocate.. Seriously!

He's a career politician, which means he's inherently an untrustworthy scumbag.

That said, he's probably a better and more qualified scumbag than any of the other clowns running right now. At least he's got some vision for the future - something we've been without for the last eight or so years.

Shaun,
A hell of a lot longer than that. Maybe since Reagan.. Clinton had no vision except sex and gutting the military. He stuck his finger in the air and asked the pollsters.

that's not the only place he stuck that finger

I'm not sure Gore will be acceptable to the majority of the populace, but as gore knows, sometimes that doesn't mean you can't be president.

I give Gore props. He bowed out when it was time.

I'm uneasy about his environmental agenda, and the way his nutjob wife went after hard rock music back in the day.

And I think he lacks the charisma Barak has, and he competes to much with a base hillary already has to be a viable democratic candidate.

Livi, you might find this hard to swallow, but it's 100% true. Al Gore's stance on guns is why he is not president now.

I won't go into the whole explanation of how our electoral college system works, but in 2000 Gore lost West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee, both of which he should have handily won and would have made Florida irrelevant. He lost these states because he scared rural gun owners during the primary, in which he tried to out-liberal Bill Bradley, who was about as far left as they come. It was a typical Gore, super pander move, say or do anything to get elected, regardless of what he really thought. And he lived to regret his words. Had he won either, not both, of those states, he'd have become president. WV used to be a reliably Democrat state and Gore certainly should have won his home state. Though, like many politicians, Gore never had a real job or many roots in his home state. He actually grew up in Wash. DC and spent a few summers on the family farm in TN.

They don't matter, make it free, ignore it, bad, depends on the audience, good then bad, not important.

Seriously though, Gore is borderline psycho...the guys not right in the head. He's like McCain but only much more gullible.

Thanks all, I am getting a fuller picture of Gore. Maybe he is not all that genuine and truly sincere that he made to believe in the interview.

Good summary, Rick! He must have been truly disappointed knowing very well he had a chance but apparently blew it on a single misconception - never disregard the dude with the gun!

Can´t help but to think he made a surprisingly good impression as a person though. Despite the fact that it looked like he had a nose and eye job..

lendaddy, another very good summary! Fun too!

Whomever gets the next presidency, the taxpayers will have to face the rath of 8 years of glutinous, fraudulant, and corrupted overspending by the current admin, so economically we are ****ed anyway.

He would/will repair to some extent international relations and markets to make the national debt chart line a little more horizontal.

Yup...Gore ain't right in the head and we all are............

Yes, he fooled you. He is a cook, a nutcase.
He lives in a fantasy world where he actually believes the things he makes up.

And this differs from other politicos how?

One more thing, if anyone buys Al Gore's fantasy that global warming is due directly from the action of humans, you've been duped.
Don't feel bad tho, seems like most (not all) humans are foolish enough to buy the scam so you are not alone.

Sam Gore

Climate change? We beat that dead horse months ago. To admit that man's actions could contribute to any climate effect is far different than an illogical statement that man is solely responsible for any change. To claim otherwise is denial, plain and simple. All systems react to the total of inputs. Nature is not selective.

Re: Too bad you didn´t get Al Gore.
 

Tell me about it, I was just off with my windage calculations:D

Livi, it just so happens that a lot of Porsche owners are right wing neo conservatives. I have never seen one ever be wrong about any issue.

No, it is just that those of us smart enough to build business that allow us to buy Porsches aren't the ones wrong, you are, bvut:D

I met Al at the Sundance Festival a few years ago while he was busy allowing people to love him and bask in his genius.
What an egotistical, self righteous moron.
Oh I was at an event where the gentleman who produced his film was there and he is just as blind, but a much smarter businessman
Steve

I've met Al Gore before too and he seemed like a nice guy. In fact, I've met just about every politician out there and most are pretty nice and even personable. But it doesn't make them right or honest or fit for high office.