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island911 07-09-2007 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
... I'm ragging on all those jumping on the F bandwagon when no one knows anything substantive about him. It just seems odd to me that in a time when we need serious candidates, everyone is falling all over themselves for a guy with a nice voice.
..

Obama?

BeyGon 07-09-2007 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
this is a thread about Mighty Mouse. Instead of (constantly) changing the subject to "what about your guy(s)", how about answering the questions first?

and I'm not really ragging on Fred. I'm ragging on all those jumping on the F bandwagon when no one knows anything substantive about him. It just seems odd to me that in a time when we need serious candidates, everyone is falling all over themselves for a guy with a nice voice.

I also find it odd that people are able to compartmentalize the lobbyist thing. there's nothing slimier than a lobbyist.

Maybe you missed this by Wayne

http://www.imwithfred.com

There's some good common sense stuff there. And, unfortunately for America today, common sense doesn't seem to be that common anymore.

-Wayne

Shaun @ Tru6 07-09-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by island911
Obama?
not nearly as shiny as Mighty Mouse.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-09-2007 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by BeyGon
Maybe you missed this by Wayne

http://www.imwithfred.com

There's some good common sense stuff there. And, unfortunately for America today, common sense doesn't seem to be that common anymore.

-Wayne

He's got an awesome copy writer!

"I was in a nearby town, so when I heard that the YRs were meeting in Hollywood FL, I knew I wanted to go over and pay my respects. The YRs are where the rubber meets the road in Republican politics. That is how I got my start a “few” years ago. I must say the reception was a lot warmer than the last time I was in “Hollywood.” My message was simple and brief: I am tired of people apologizing for America, the greatest beacon of hope for all freedom seeking people in the world."

Shaun @ Tru6 07-09-2007 09:44 AM

Talk about information overload, I now know why you guys like him so much!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1184003029.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1184003041.jpg


Search on "Iraq"
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1184003069.jpg

island911 07-09-2007 09:51 AM

"education" ? Seriously?

WTH do you think he will say there? That he's against it? :rolleyes:

..and Abortion? Are ya shoot'n for another social experiment there, Shaun?

Porsche-O-Phile 07-09-2007 09:52 AM

Abortion is a stupid, divisive "non-issue" that shouldn't even be debated seriously. It's a waste of time and the issue has been settled and upheld by the courts. Next.

Education is a complex issue. I imagine his stance on this matter is being developed. It'll be interesting to see what it ends up being - that's a critical one for Thompson.

legion 07-09-2007 09:59 AM

Good call, Jeff.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-09-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by island911
"education" ? Seriously?

WTH do you think he will say there? That he's against it? :rolleyes:

..and Abortion? Are ya shoot'n for another social experiment there, Shaun?

and with that, you accept defeat. man when you go back over a year to take a personal swipe, you've lost Glenn. I own my dishonor on the Board. You'd make a good lobbyist.

Education? Seriously, it's only the most important issue in remaining competitive in the next 50 years.

lendaddy 07-09-2007 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa

Education? Seriously, it's only the most important issue in remaining competitive in the next 50 years.

I checked, and sure as ****....he's against it:D

Rick Lee 07-09-2007 12:11 PM

Why is education even an issue with federal candidates? I think federal money makes up around 7% of what we spend on education. Might be a little more, but it's not much more than 10% at the most. No president is gonna fix even 20% of the problem with only 7% of the money. And Wash. DC public schools have proven over and over that money doesn't solve problems. Oh, and not a single elected official sends their kids to public school in DC.

techweenie 07-09-2007 12:14 PM

Shaun, havent' you noticed how some people develop their political opinions?

It's easy and quick to simply imagine Thompson's stands. That way you don't have to do any research at all. Oh, and it works for the people you don't like, as well! You can imagine that they don't have any positions, or that they have positions you don't like -- without the trouble of ever looking them up!

techweenie 07-09-2007 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Education? Seriously, it's only the most important issue in remaining competitive in the next 50 years.
Probably have to rule out Sam Brownback, then. That guy would be perfectly happy if the only textbook in schools was the Bible.

legion 07-09-2007 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
It's easy and quick to simply imagine Thompson's stands. That way you don't have to do any research at all. Oh, and it works for the people you don't like, as well! You can imagine that they don't have any positions, or that they have positions you don't like -- without the trouble of ever looking them up!
The irony is killing me.

Rick Lee 07-09-2007 12:22 PM

I don't know that Thompson's campaign even has an official website with position papers yet. So whatever we say his positions are is just based on his Senate voting record or some of his canned speeches or radio soundbites. As long as he doesn't propose throwing more money at the "education problem", I can live with whatever other position he takes on that issue.

BeyGon 07-09-2007 12:29 PM

I still like Newt, at least his problems were with grown women. Just like the Mayors of Los Angeles and San Francisco. Not that Fred has a problem with women. It doesn't look like it anyway.

the 07-09-2007 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by legion
The irony is killing me.
Agree. Sometimes people post stuff that, coming from them, is quite startling.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-09-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by legion
The irony is killing me.
the Alanis Morrisette kind of irony?:confused:

Shaun @ Tru6 07-09-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
Shaun, havent' you noticed how some people develop their political opinions?

It's easy and quick to simply imagine Thompson's stands. That way you don't have to do any research at all. Oh, and it works for the people you don't like, as well! You can imagine that they don't have any positions, or that they have positions you don't like -- without the trouble of ever looking them up!

What I can't understand is why no one can summarize Mighty Mouse's position on anything, yet he's the "best" candidate for President between both parties. So far I've got a website written by a screenwriter/copywriter.

:confused:

If only Mike Huckabee lived in at least the 20th century, he'd be a good candidate. Bill Richardson is a good candidate too. These are good men with good ideas.

Don't have good voices and aren't very shiny though. :(

Tobra 07-09-2007 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
Why is education even an issue with federal candidates? I think federal money makes up around 7% of what we spend on education. Might be a little more, but it's not much more than 10% at the most. No president is gonna fix even 20% of the problem with only 7% of the money. And Wash. DC public schools have proven over and over that money doesn't solve problems. Oh, and not a single elected official sends their kids to public school in DC.
Education is a state issue primarily, which no one seems to understand

Bill Richardson had a good idea?

Out of all the candidates, Mr Thompson is the only one who comes across as a genuine caring person. Maybe faked, but there it is. That will score points with middle america.

Shaun, if you really care what his positions are(which I am certain you do not), look at his voting record. He is consistent, reasonable and he faces the same direction no matter which way the wind happens to be blowing.


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