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targa911S 07-20-2007 09:55 AM

Any tips on passing a whizz quizz for pot?
 
With all the pot talk here thought I'd ask.

Joeaksa 07-20-2007 09:57 AM

Yea, a very simple one. DO NOT SMOKE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

targa911S 07-20-2007 10:05 AM

That's pretty obvious.

Zeke 07-20-2007 10:47 AM

You can do a Google search on the subject. I had to take a drug test and I did the search and learned a lot. I had taken some cold medicine with codeine and knew I'd fail. However, I drank about 3 gallons of water in 24 hours and flushed my system out pretty well. I passed (I passed a lot of water, too :D). Apparently, pot doesn't flush out like that and it takes a week or more. That is unless they do a hair analysis. Hair shows drug use as far back is the hair is long. So, shave your head. ;)

cashflyer 07-20-2007 11:25 AM

Put a midget in your trousers the day of the test.
Have him pee for you.

stomachmonkey 07-20-2007 11:38 AM

Quote:

You can do a Google search on the subject. I had to take a drug test and I did the search and learned a lot. I had taken some cold medicine with codeine and knew I'd fail. However, I drank about 3 gallons of water in 24 hours and flushed my system out pretty well. I passed (I passed a lot of water, too ). Apparently, pot doesn't flush out like that and it takes a week or more. That is unless they do a hair analysis. Hair shows drug use as far back is the hair is long. So, shave your head.
Your head ain't the only place to get a hair sample from.

Aerkuld 07-20-2007 11:43 AM

You have to pass a test to buy it now?
;)

Joeaksa 07-20-2007 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by milt
You can do a Google search on the subject. I had to take a drug test and I did the search and learned a lot. I had taken some cold medicine with codeine and knew I'd fail. However, I drank about 3 gallons of water in 24 hours and flushed my system out pretty well. I passed (I passed a lot of water, too :D).

Apparently, pot doesn't flush out like that and it takes a week or more. That is unless they do a hair analysis. Hair shows drug use as far back is the hair is long. So, shave your head. ;)

As long as we are going this deep on drug scans, and considering that I used to be the person who ran the program overseas for McDonnell Douglas...

Hair shows whatever you consumed for a long time. Forget exactly how long but if the hair is long enough it will bust you easily. Edgar Allen Poe was a known user of opiates and a piece of his hair was tested and came up positive. Oh yea, he died over 150 years ago and the hair test still worked.

Another gotcha is your fingernails. One new thing in the drug screen library is that HR will ask for a clipping of one of your fingernails. Its then tested in the same manner that hair is and is just as accurate. Unless you want to pull your finger and toe-nails out, these will bite you in the rear if you are doing drugs and are tested.

Pot will stay in a persons fat cells for up to 3 MONTHS, not weeks. The more rotund a person is the worse it is, and the more frequent a pot smoker they are the longer it takes to get out of their system.

Now the good news. There is a reason why people who get tested often do speed (meth) and blow (coke) as its usually out of your system (the pee test) in a few days. It IS NOT out of your hair and fingernails but most low level testing facilities do not use these tests.

m21sniper 07-20-2007 11:57 AM

I would never take a job that requires drug screening, and have walked out of a few interviews when it was mentioned.

The last drug test i took was in Sept 2001, trying to re-enlist. I passed.

rouxroux 07-20-2007 12:36 PM

Or, the method used by so many professional athletes, the Whizzinator:

www.thewhizzinator.com

thinkfloyd14 07-20-2007 12:37 PM

search google for a whizzinator, it attaches like a belt and looks like a penis so even if someone is looking at you, it looks like ur still peeing

Zeke 07-20-2007 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by stomachmonkey
Your head ain't the only place to get a hair sample from.
well, of course not. But, if someone wants to scan one of my pubics, come on down.

Hey, thinkf, does the whizzinator keep the pee at 98.6? First thing they test.

hook682 07-20-2007 12:59 PM

Cashflyer, You would have to make sure he was a clean midget first.

Joeaksa 07-20-2007 01:02 PM

Reading the link helps. They have "heater packs" that maintain the temps. A good tech can tell the difference with a digital thermometer, but many care less these days...

Jeff Higgins 07-20-2007 01:21 PM

I'm surprised the ACLU or some one has not slammed this one to the mat in court yet. Talk about an invasion of privacy. Our gubmint hasn't found a way to test the citizenry legally for themselves, so they turn a blind constitutional eye towards testing as a prerequiset to employment. What a sham.

sammyg2 07-20-2007 01:23 PM

What Joeaksa said +1000

thinkfloyd14 07-20-2007 03:49 PM

It also depends how lax the lab is. I work in Compton, the clinic I went to get tested at was down the street, I had a co worker piss in a cup, then i filled 4 or 5 syringes with his piss and taped it to my crotch. They werent watching me while I pissed and immediately they told me that the piss was cold, but then I denied cheating and they still sent it to the lab and I passed.

on2wheels52 07-20-2007 04:21 PM

How about random drug samples before you get your welfare check?
Jim

Joeaksa 07-20-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by on2wheels52
How about random drug samples before you get your welfare check?
Jim

Agree totally but considering the number of people trying to evade taking piss tests do not believe that it would go well on this thread.

scottmandue 07-20-2007 04:31 PM

Ok it has been a very, very, very, long time but to pass a piss test they sell something that will block the THC from going into your urine for around 48 hours... most head shops and some health food stores (not sure why :rolleyes: ) sell it. I have also heard that drinking gelatin has the same results... and BTY you will feel pluged up for those 48 hours.

Of course I got all this info from a friend of a friend ;)

Also obvious... if you can't stop smoking weed for three months you have a problem IMHO.

scottmandue 07-20-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by on2wheels52
How about random drug samples before you get your welfare check?
Jim

Depends on what kind of random drug samples are you planning on giving out? :D

RoninLB 07-20-2007 10:51 PM

was told they also check for health food store detoxifiers around here.

There was a book available called "Just Say No to Drug Tests, How to Beat the Wizz Quiz" by Ed Carson. [ggood memmory, huh]


my cousin failed because he ate a poppy seed bagel.

HardDrive 07-20-2007 11:31 PM

WTF kind of job are you applying for? If its not drivin' a school bus or working heavy equipment, tell them to go f-ck themselves.

Sonic dB 07-21-2007 02:03 AM

Get a Whizzenator: Your clean friend pisses in a bottle and you pack
it in a bag and tape it in your armpit so that it stays Warm. You then
run a clear tube down your arm, down the side of your torso and up
under your privates. When the time comes to piss in the cup you
simply squeeze the bag under your armpit and a clear stream of
drug-free piss excrements itself out of the bag, down the tube and into
the cup and you are home free.

It worked for Tony Mandrich.

PS: I do not take drugs, nor condone their usage.

Sonic dB 07-21-2007 02:09 AM

here is a link: http://www.whizzinator.com/whiz2.htm
you can even get a fake penis...

targa911S 07-21-2007 07:11 AM

Well I'm not taking the quizz. I'm pretty clean anyway. It's just with all this pot talk, and a lot of us seem to have pretty good jobs, someone here had to pass the test. I was curious how they got it done. Most anwers seem a bit extreme.

Hawktel 07-21-2007 07:44 AM

A girl I knew passed it by having a friend pee in test tube. She inserted said test tube, waited till her turn, and did the deed. Said it was 95.9 but she told them she let it sit for a second while buckling back up.


All the scams seem like a lot of work to keep smoking pot.

targa911S 07-21-2007 07:51 AM

agreed

scottmandue 07-21-2007 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by Hawktel

All the scams seem like a lot of work to keep smoking pot.

No kidding... I haven't commemorated the day I stopped smoking weed but it has been close to ten years. I just turned 50 and some of my friends still smoke... pretty pathetic actually.

That Whizzenator thing kind of freaks/grosses me out... have a friend pee in a bottle then strap it to yourself? YUCK!

As a rule I try to stay away from other peoples excemnt thank you very much! (I know... I'm such a party pooper)

john70t 07-21-2007 08:04 AM

Haven't had that stuff in about a decade, but vigorously reserve my constitutional right to do so at anytime off the job.

Have heard that drinking a lot of water and orange juice(vitaminC) and exercizing speeds up the fat burn, where THC is stored. This won't work short term, obviously.
Also heard they test for sample dilution by checking levels of a protein digestive byproduct, so eating a lot of meat the nights before might allow for a little faucet turning.
The incidental residue would be from those hippys next to you at the rock concert rock concert or the new poker partners. Tell them before about possible second hand exposure.

Or better yet, find another employer. This one seems to have its priorities jumbled and doesn't deserve your hard work.
I've found there are plenty of drug-free walking vegetables at Home Depot.

Danny_Ocean 07-21-2007 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
I'm surprised the ACLU or some one has not slammed this one to the mat in court yet. Talk about an invasion of privacy. Our gubmint hasn't found a way to test the citizenry legally for themselves, so they turn a blind constitutional eye towards testing as a prerequiset to employment. What a sham.
The Constitution is a contract between the government and the people. Private employers do not need to follow the Constitution. Nonetheless, how is requiring a drug test an invasion of privacy? If you do not want to pee in the bottle, you don't have to. They aren't holding you down to extract it. Do I want a druggie driving my kids school bus? Building my airplane? Operating on me in the emergency room? No thanks.

http://www.katize.com/wp-content/upl..._for_dopes.jpg

svandamme 07-21-2007 08:10 AM

Talk to cyclists... there's plenty of ways

one method... and here comes a fun procedure
before the piss check, they will insert a tube into their urethra
all the way up to the bladder, tickle the bladder valve (dunno the word in english for it)a bit, so it opens, drain the bladder completely, then they will inject other, safe urine in there... and then it's off to the piss test

:D
great fun, innit?

off course, in less difficult enviroments, one might simply stick a bag under the arm, with a tube down low, and squeeze the arm to piss manually and clean... but it won't work if they are watching you closely...

Danny_Ocean 07-21-2007 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by scottmandue
No kidding... I haven't commemorated the day I stopped smoking weed but it has been close to ten years. I just turned 50 and some of my friends still smoke... pretty pathetic actually.

You indicate you stopped stopped 10 yrs. ago. A 40 yr. old man smoking pot isn't pathetic?

LOL...

Danny_Ocean 07-21-2007 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardDrive
WTF kind of job are you applying for? If its not drivin' a school bus or working heavy equipment, tell them to go f-ck themselves.
Do you want the girl who is taking your deposits to the bank (and is a little short this week on funds to buy cheeba) to be a user?

I can't tell you how many cases I investigated in my past career involving medical employees raiding the doctor's drug cabinet. Sad.

Joeaksa 07-21-2007 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by john70t
Haven't had that stuff in about a decade, but vigorously reserve my constitutional right to do so at anytime off the job.

The incidental residue would be from those hippys next to you at the rock concert rock concert or the new poker partners. Tell them before about possible second hand exposure.

Or better yet, find another employer. This one seems to have its priorities jumbled and doesn't deserve your hard work.
I've found there are plenty of drug-free walking vegetables at Home Depot.

Ahhhn, your constitutional rights do not have a thing to do with it. Someone coming down from a stiff night of partying and not being "on the ball" and thus causing an accident that hurts or kills someone is a main reason why people are drug tested. Please show us where something like this is protected in the Constitution.

Second hand exposure? When I was being cleared for my last Top Secret security clearance for the Air Force I was pee tested, as usual. One week before had been in Amsterdam and caught a couple of good whiff's of the stuff the people at the next table were smoking. We moved to another table. I was called in and told that while they could tell that it was second hand and not direct exposure, had I not declared it I would not have passed. Second hand exposure means you were near someone doing drugs, and you better have a good reason for being in proximity of someone doing drugs. In this case it was a legal drug in a country that allows it, otherwise I would have had some difficult questions thrown at me.

Drug testing has gotten a lot better in the last 20 years and if they really want to check you, you cannot hide. If you feel differently, pls tell me how you can get around the hair or fingernail issue.

Find another employer? Well, how does that square with paragraph one? Your right to be high should not intrude on everyone else's right to be safe, on the road, work place or anywhere out in the public. As well how does this square with their wanting an employee who is on the ball, safe and ready to work all day long to earn the money they are being paid? You really want to get high and do not want to be drug tested, then start your own company and you as the owner can do as you wish!

Am sure that some of those people at Home Depot feel exactly the same about others there at times.

Guys, I used to get high when younger. Am not saying not to party but we always did it on Friday or Saturday and were clean and ready to go on Monday. This did not happen every weekend as well. Once I got older and as pee testing came out I stopped as my future is worth more than getting high. As well I kinda outgrew it, and just do not need to "escape reality" these days.

If there is something so bad or difficult in your world that you still feel the need to get high often, then to try fooling the drug tests (or get a new employer who does not test) then one might think that you have other problems that need addressing...

DaveE 07-21-2007 08:46 AM

I used to work for a major eastern railroad and part of my job was routinely testing the cab signal system, plus I was also qualified to operate locomotives in the shop area for testing purposes. A side benefit of my job was that I was subject to random testing 4 times a year. I smoked pot when I was much younger so I never worried about the testing but always felt it a huge intrusion on my personal freedom, not to mention a bit insulting. Maybe that personal freedom doesn't really exist in the USA.

svandamme 07-21-2007 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danny_Ocean
You indicate you stopped stopped 10 yrs. ago. A 40 yr. old man smoking pot isn't pathetic?

LOL...

is the occasional joint worse then a 40 year old drinking scotch daily?

who would be worse off? somebody who smokes pot every day? or an alcoholic with a taste for Wodka in his Evian bottle at work????


Quote:

Originally posted by Danny_Ocean
Do you want the girl who is taking your deposits to the bank (and is a little short this week on funds to buy cheeba) to be a user?

for one thing, anybody having others taking deposits to the bank will have to trust that person, and potheads are usually not the thieving kind compared to say Meth heads... or even folks with a sober, but bad character...

a certain percentage of folks can't be trusted, that's a fact of life... but show me factual data , that potheads(pure potheads, not meth users who also smoke weed) are less honest , and let's compared that with teetotaling numbers

Quote:

Originally posted by Danny_Ocean

I can't tell you how many cases I investigated in my past career involving medical employees raiding the doctor's drug cabinet. Sad.

sure, and from those cases that resulted in convictions
what percentage of those, had a guilty party who smoked pot, and just pot, not messing around with other substances...

oh , wait, i would imagine that number to be low, considering they were raiding the doctors cabinet, where i presume they didn't find Maui Wawi, but Barbiturates, and what not... things that are far more addictive then Marihuana... no? please correct me if i'm wrong

Danny_Ocean 07-21-2007 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme
is the occasional joint worse then a 40 year old drinking scotch daily?

who would be worse off? somebody who smokes pot every day? or an alcoholic with a taste for Wodka in his Evian bottle at work????


for one thing, anybody having others taking deposits to the bank will have to trust that person, and potheads are usually not the thieving kind compared to say Meth heads... or even folks with a sober, but bad character...

a certain percentage of folks can't be trusted, that's a fact of life... but show me factual data , that potheads(pure potheads, not meth users who also smoke weed) are less honest , and let's compared that with teetotaling numbers

sure, and from those cases that resulted in convictions
what percentage of those, had a guilty party who smoked pot, and just pot, not messing around with other substances...

oh , wait, i would imagine that number to be low, considering they were raiding the doctors cabinet, where i presume they didn't find Maui Wawi, but Barbiturates, and what not... things that are far more addictive then Marihuana... no? please correct me if i'm wrong

If you're doing illegal drugs (or legal booze), you won't be taking my bank deposits with you. If an adult has to get high, and getting high is more important then their career, there's something very wrong with that person.

RoninLB 07-21-2007 09:32 AM

just a moment digression


i was camping in N Calif a few yrs ago and hanging with a local for a few hrs at night. He said many high end NW software architects, whatever that is, drop acid to develop and explore new circuits. Said they actually journey through the circuit like an electron.

Joeaksa 07-21-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by DaveE
I smoked pot when I was much younger so I never worried about the testing but always felt it a huge intrusion on my personal freedom, not to mention a bit insulting. Maybe that personal freedom doesn't really exist in the USA.
You can have all the personal freedom you want when you are a greeter at Wal-Mart, digging ditches or picking up trash for a living. If you are going to be doing something that possibly puts the public at risk, then its time to be safe and sober.

Many of the posts on this thread show why random drug testing is needed, because there sure seems to be a lot of you guys who feel that its a game to get high and not get caught. Trust me gents, when an accident happens and they pull a piece of your hair and find ANY drug in it that has not been perscribed to you by a doctor, life and your "personal freedom" will change. Do I like doing random testing? No, but there are others who think its a game to get high then try and operate a machine that the public uses.

Guys, let me ask you a silly question. I fly airplanes for a living. Next time you and your family hop on a jet to fly somewhere please tell me how you would feel about the pilots toking on a doobie at the jetway door before getting on the plane?

What? You want the pilots to be safe and sober when they fly you from point A to point B in that thunderstorm? Then please tell me the difference between this and the guy/gal who drives the bus, the train, the street cleaner, the person who repairs the brakes on a city vehicle, repairs cables on the ski lift and so on?

You can have all the "personal freedom" you want. Just stay away from any job that could possibly involve any of the public. After all, last time I looked I did not sign a release of my rights that allowed anyone else to get high and sacrifice my safety and the safety of my family.


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