5 days vs. 5 years? You funny.

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Kurt

It's not that I NEED that much music...but it is really nice to have the ability to have it all at once. Having my entire library at the tip of my finger is extremely convenient. I have an mp3 cd player in my car, and even though I can hold nearly 100 songs per CD, i still find myself carrying around 5-10 different discs depending on what kind of mood I'm in, who is in the car with me, etc. And right now my iPod is in use between 2-4 hours a day on average and its nice not to have to continually move songs on and off of it. Throw in the added video capability (of which full length movies are anywhere from about 500mb-1gb) and I can hit the capacity of the iTouch easily. I would rather wait for the capacity to go up before I buy.

Oh and I don't remember too much before mp3's, cuz im only 19 and had my first mp3 player in 7th grade. 64mb, $400. Its amazing how fast technology changes.

who's acting smug? Just fending off potshots at someone who lives to take potshots. The iPhone is the best convergence device I've ever used. Period. It is far from perfect, but I've owned and used every iteration of Windows Mobile (iPaq, HTC hardware, etc). Sorry, but this is just in a different league imho. But it also depends how you use your devices. For the first time I have been able to drop down to a single device instead of having a phone, a data device, ipod, etc. But mostly it is the elegance of the UI and the way that will change the way people think about how they deal with their data and how software gets developed. And the aesthetic.

Then again, I wouldn't expect an engineer to really grok that ;)

Oh wait, that's me being smug. Or accurate. Not sure which :p

garrett, haha that explains it. nevr mind


just to keep the pc crowd (or anti-mac or whatever the term would be) happy:

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...ODSOHMYGOD.gif

Is that the advertisement for the new "world" iPhone? I hear it has a built-in generator you pump to re-charge the batteries. Works real well if a power supply for recharging isn't available.

I hear a rumor that you can unlock the pos now is that true?

The topic was 'the latest buzz.'

5 years of "buzz" ?!? . ..Did you just get out of the clink? :cool:

Also note the market cap on those two. ;)

Yup, five years of buzz is about right - that's what I would call the incredible growth of AAPL.

Yes, MSFT has a larger mkt. cap but perhaps you should take a look at market cap growth over the last five years. AAPLs almost two times bigger than DELL in this regard and should eclipse MSFT in a few years, IMHO.

Sorry Apple bothers you so much and sorry you and others have nothing to do except ridicule folks who simply really like a company's products. Your behavior appears childish, FWIW.

Read it and weep:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1189123513.jpg

Best,

Kurt

Your behavior appears cult-like.

Yep. Just like Porsche ownership. SmileWavy

Ouch. That hurts, considering I put $60K in AAPL in Spring '02, only to pull it out after the iPod announcement :-0

But it goes a long way toward explaining the haters: they probably put their money in one or more of the other four stocks.

You crack me up. Seriously! :) Hopefully you are just yanking some chains and I'm pretty sure you understand what a "cult" is.

At least I have something to like. You're just bothered that Apple folks like their stuff. It is just "stuff" you know?

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Kurt

I said cult-like. --not that it IS a cult.

See the image. Can you for a second expect that would 'work' with a microsoft logo?

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...ODSOHMYGOD.gif


I'm try'n to help you guys see the absurdity of it all. Quite simply Jobs screwed-up. You can accept that he screwed up here, or continue to defend that your emperor's clothes are macaroni.

I mean really, do you think this "open letter" was all part of his super terrific brilliant plan? Do you think sales have been as high as hoped for?

Jobs likes to shock people. He also REALLY want's to hit some magic number of sales, apparently. ...and so we have what we have here.

It IS just stuff, yet it has religious type zealotry. . ..maybe more like a sports team following. --People throw up stat's to show "their team" Apple is winning in some "most improved" category. They go on about the brilliance of their team captain. . . .and those brilliant plays. Hey, where's the instant replay?

Damn that's a funny gif. :D

You know what makes me nuts. YOU start more of these debates than anyone else on this board.

You toss your little dirt bombs over the fence and then give us crap for throwing them back.

If you don't want to hear it then I suggest YOU stop bringing it up.

Post one, page one. Like I poked a finger in your i. :rolleyes: Dude, this was significant news.

Yes, I think Apple screwed up with the $200 reduction in such a short time - hence the $100 credit. The jury is still out on why they did this. Neither you nor I truly know the reason of the reduction; slow sales or a stab at market share? Who knows?

The sports team analogy seems reasonable. Or folks who love cars, put their car model in there signature line and nickname themselves after their favorite model perhaps?

The picture is funny. :D

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Kurt

Ohhh. . . Nice dig, Kurt. :D Though, for a Porsche board, it seems appropriate.

Island - I think you need to realize that Apple is creating its own market beyond anything Microsoft has created. Where Microsoft is just a software manufacturer, Apple is becoming a lifestyle brand.

It's the same with anything else:

Is there any product manufacturer that you truly believe in? You know, in the way a person will only buy Pinarello bicycles, swears by Harleys, or will drive nothing but Porsches, imbibing all the while the excitement and lifestyle (read: community), these products present? I mean, look at this forum and the amount of posts you have on it - zealots, fanatics, purveyors, votaries or whatever - being a supporter isn't that bad. http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...t-event-57.jpg

All in good fun. ;)

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Kurt

Yeah, dd, point taken. But I don't care for people who are "all & anything Porsche/Pinarello/Harleys" either. ..Cult-like, again.

Part of what is interesting, in the Apple image, is that it has been the (somewhat) a counter culture. Now, we have Jobs hugging Schultz, and Shultz going on about ALL of the corporate Starbucks stores for the Apple following. Anyway, there is a rub there. Jobs wants market-share, yet his herd wants anti-corporate-ish exclusivity.

What will happen to the zealots when/if Apple displaces M-soft? ...and apple becoming the the ho-hum standard giant corp.

If they still make "insanely great" products, I'll be fine with that ;)

I guess I could always buy a Zune instead :p

Different strokes, baby. I don't think anyone can deny that Apple brings an aesthetic to the industry that no one else does. Whether you think that is worthy of the price of admission is up to the individual...

At least then you could squirt stuff around, yes?

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Kurt

Why but a Zune when your church offers that "apple-TV" dog? . . .er, I mean "insanely great" product. :cool:

i don't own an apple-tv. Guess I didn't drink enough kool-aid ;)

Actually, I bet there is some sort of agreement between AT&T and Apple where if the iPhone doesn't sell some minimum by some date, then Apple owes them some money, or doesn't get it's revenue sharing. The real "money" here is AT&T, not the price of the phone.

But this also shows that Apple had too much margin in the iPhone to start. Knocking 33% off the sell price is huge. You just can't get there the way Jobs said: reducing manufacturing costs.

jeepers... you really are diggin' deep sometimes.

what will happen? maybe nothing. maybe a lot of something. who cares??
maye if/when they displace ms and become big, they forget how they got there and start making crap that looks like a dell. and then people will stop buying and the scheme will fall apart. really, is there anything worthwhile to ponder here?

people like good looking items and want aesthetics in their life so they buy. the fact that the products work as advertised is simply a bonus.

i'm not a zealot and don't want/own an ipod but will get the phone. as cool as they are, with all the docks and cradles and extras, i just don't need tunes with me 24/7 everywhere i go. so i don't have an ipod. phone will actually be useful so i will get it and i'm sure i'll rave about how cool a product apple made. if it was made by sony i'd feel exactly the same way ab it. cool and want it. no zealotry, just a fun gadget.

really? how is it counter-intuitive?

And sorry Wayne, but you're not a "typical" user...neither am I.

Interesting - and correct. I dropped off the Apple radar as far as "a fan" went, when the Hollywood industry became so enamored with them. You know, it was sacrilegious to write a screenplay with anything other than a Mac, particularly if you were in a Starbucks.

I have a new Mac laptop, and it is a nice machine. But not for the doo-dads, widgets, etc. I like the machine because the keyboard feels good, it's portable and has reasonable graphics.

As to being cult-like, I'd feel sorry for anyone shallow enough to feel unending dedication to what is basically a two-year appliance. Like (the new) VW-made Porsches, Taiwanese-made rip offs of Italian racing bikes, and Harleys that have long since lost their allure, the shelf life with these items is short and ultimately, forgettable.

Now, to want a real cult-like or purely cult following in electronics/computers, one only need look at Linux/Unix users.