Apple's newest PUSH -cheaper "iPhones" & double billing for songs
 

read the play by play here; http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/05/steve-jobs-live-apples-the-beat-goes-on-special-event/

...it's a good read. (esp the comentary) :D

The competition exists with Nokia and their N800 (N800 has 2x the screen res of the iphone, better skype phone w/ video, but less internal memory)

The double billing for ring tones is dumb, IMO.

But there is an easy way to grab any 30 second clip from the iTMS - typically the best or most memorable part of the song - and use it as an iPhone ring tone . . . for free.

New stuff looks nice.

Best,

Kurt

meanwhile, Sony folds the tent

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070830-sony-euthanizes-sony-connect.html

Yeah, Apple really is getting it wrong ;)

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Is that "Million" . . .w/ an "M" ? :D . . and it's free, you say?

Just think if MacDonalds had given away hamburgers for free. Why they would be in the Trillions (w/ a "T") by now. --oh wait.

Job's is saying again; "This is a revolution."

Really?!? . .."this market saturation" I could believe.

yeah, reminds me of i-omega. (over hyped, and on it's way down as, every other electronic device now plays a jingle or two . .. million) ;)

Flash-only on the iPod 'touch'? Lame. Put at least 30GB in there and I'll think about it.

I want to see the naysayers shorting AAPL... and sharing their results.

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Not too shabby. And that's just music players. :)

Best,

Kurt

Years ago Dell and Gateway both tried the retail thing and failed.

They all said Apple would fail.

Based on Apples success Dell recently decided to jump back into the retail fray.

Dell will fail again because they just don't get it.

When you went to a Dell or Gateway store you picked your system, paid, then left WITHOUT your purchase.

You had to go home and wait until they built it and shipped it to you.

Dell is sticking to that business model again.

I don't know about you but if I plunk down a grand or so on a computer I want to take it home right then and there.

So the 8GB iPhone drops in price from $600 down to $400. ...33% cut in price.

I've got to ask you early iPhone buyers; How do ya like them Apples?

price of doing business. You really think I didn't know that was going to happen? Timing was a bit quicker that I assumed, but only an idiot would not expect it.

16gig will probably come out at $499.

Yeah, no other manufacturer ever drops prices or improves the spec.

You are such a hater ;)

uhh. . . 33% in a couple months? You expected that? Wow, you are smart. Does a smart guy, like yourself, think they overestimated their market? Or is this just standard pricing? :cool:

I'm disappointed that the ipod touch is only 16GB. I guess I will be waiting another year to upgrade as I need way more space than that. my 4G 20GB is full as it is and that doesn't hold video or pics.

Yeah, a hater... whats 200 bucks anyways.

AT&T blows.

Wonder how many of those iTune downloads were later deleted cause the shyte crashes and locks up da iPod on a PC ;) I setup a OpenSuSE computer that has no problems talking to iPod and I don't need da stinking iTunes...:D

We like our little 2GB nano. So far 500 (or so) songs out of our ~50GB library is plenty to bring along. My buddy has the big (40 or 60 GB) video iPod. It's very cumbersome in size (compared to nano) and navigating all that music to find what you want can get tedious. I know I know...playlists...I'm just too lazy, or busy, to sit down and mess with them.

Some "reports" have the iPhone as the #1 smart phone in the US market . . . in just one month.

I'll wait for hard numbers, but I would not be surprised to see it follow a similar path as the Pod family.

Sorry this really bothers some folks. :)

Best,

Kurt

P.S.: I <3 my iPhone.

I used to work for Sony Connect as their Network Engineer.

I was one of the first to jump ship before the lay offs - I saw it coming...they tried to tell me otherwise...

Then there were layoffs, then they axed the CEO...

Love mine too!

$200? Big deal.
I started buying chunks of Apple stock at $25. I couldn't be happier. :)

My 1st gen iPod just died after 5 years of hard use. I ordered a new black Nano 8GB today. Looks pretty good. I like the form factor.

I suppose 200 bones is a small price to pay for two months of i-smug. :D

Where's Microsoft in all this? I mean...well...where's Microsoft in all this...? It seems like Apple is taking over the gadget world.


This reply typed on a Mac, btw.

Not that I like it, but Windows Mobile is on .. . .has been on all kinds of gagets for some time.

Apparently 'hype' = 'truth' in some regions.

This reply typed on my WM WiFi phone, btw. (just for you) :D http://www.htc.com/

Wow! Either you're a regular Jesse James with a stylist, or you have incredibly small (yet dexterous) fingers.

a slide-out (tactile) keyboard helps.

. . .and, unlike the iPhone, WM allows this cool new fucntion called cut & paste.

Crap, I should have.

From the WSJ this morning:

http://online.wsj.com/img/b.gif APPLE LOPPED</SPAN> $200 off the iPhone price, causing its shares to fall 5.1%. Apple also revamped its iPods to include Wi-Fi and a touchscreen.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118900567113618144.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news

Interesting, if you point out why you don't want an iphone, you are a hater.





nice...........................

Oh, Microsoft's not sleeping. That's why they announced a $50 drop in Zune pricing during the Apple presentation yesterday -- which of course. completely stole the thunder from Jobs.

And of course, they completely dominated the market a couple years back with their "plays for sure" strategery.

Plus, there's a huge surge of widespread support for Vista now that people have had some time to adopt it.

Things just couldn't be better for Microsoft.

LMAO

how much music do you really need?????? what, 50 albums at.one.time. aren't enough for you?? puhh-lease.... you must've been REALLY bored before mp3's huh? :rolleyes:


haha, yeah, it seems that in this thread the only people actually bothered by the price drop are the ones WITHOUT the phone. pretty funny

(no, i don't have one. not yet.)

No matter what Jobs says, they must not be selling enough or the price wouldn't have gone down so fast. Phones are a tough market. My old Razr slid in price pretty quickly too....

I have an iPhone, but was too cool to buy mine that first Friday night....and so bought it the next afternoon! ;) Up until that time I had waited with my Razr and felt OK. Windows mobile and Palm OS were on some Treos and such things, but they never really seemed worth the price. You "could" do things - email, web, etc. - but it looked like too much trouble when I could just wait an hour to be near one of my computers. But the iPhone? My 5 year old grasps enough to make music play on the iPhone. It really works nicely, though it is like the olden days of the mid- to late 1990's with the web sometimes - OK in a pinch, but the 3G iPhone will be welcome, as will a little more memory (16GB should be fine, 32 more than enough).

The iPhone saved me a couple of times on a trip to London the week of July 4th, and was worth the price I paid. I don't feel the $200. But I was already with Cingular/AT & T, and the whole thing was pretty painless. I wouldn't have spent $600 on a new and untested machine unless I could afford it, and felt that it offered me some valuable advance over what I had. Large advances only come every 4-5 years. The Palm VII and/or Blackberry was one, the iPod another.

The iPhone is like that. It helps my business life and life-life, and was worth the price I paid. They are better deals at $399, and should be at $199 to be a totally clear choice.

Technology changes and evolves. I remember getting a Zenith 181 laptop with 640k and two 3.5" DD disk drives for $1,000 or so (a 30%-50% student discount at UCSD) in 1987 or 1988. I remember thinking "who on earth would need the Zenith 183 with the 20MB hard drive? That is such an insane amount of space, you could never use it!" LOL. If we are still surprised by constantly greater features and constantly lower prices, then we just aren't paying attention to how things ARE today....

Um, Nokia E70 anyone?

I don't see what the iPhone hype is all about, but then, I don't have an iPod either...

This is certainly one of many possibilities.

Another is that Apple is taking a stab at market share over margins; maybe Jobs has learned from historical mistakes where margin was put ahead of market share? Some would argue that this single issue has crippled Apple in the past and kept it in its niche. Lower pricing before the holiday season could create a significant buying frenzy.

Also, the iPhone and iPod family have many overlapping features which creates some pricing problems. The iPhone had to be reconciled pricing wise with the Touch.

The new iPhone price also leaves a pretty big hole at the top. To me, it looks like a new flagship iPhone is on its way, with at least 16GB (see Touch) and maybe 3G (see overseas markets).

Of course it's possible iPhones are not selling well and the price cut is because of this, but I seriously doubt it. The proof will be in the proverbial pudding when hard numbers are announced.

My bet is that iPhone numbers are at or above Apple's projections and iPhone will prove to have had an historical launch with unprecedented market share gains in a very short period of time. And the folks with no "dog in the fight" will continue to be bothered. :D

Best,

Kurt

Hmm, an IPOD that plays music and will be able to run applications, Email and wireless internet? They should rename it to.....IPAQ :D

I love my Iphone, as I told you the other night. It does more than I anticipated. I have saved a ton of minutes with the phone's voice message feature. Not $200 worth, but some. Am I upset that the price went down? No, because I am happy with the phone.

Oh, and I am not one of those Ismug people you talk about. I bought the phone a month after they were out; after I researched phones enough.

I am happy for those people who will get the phone at the new price. Buy it, you will like it! SmileWavy

Exactly, Rick.

That is what is so fascinating about apple zealots. They wet their pants, and then act all smug, for technology that has been around for years. I mean, I still have my old (thiner than an iPhone) visor Edge PDA. I never got the phone module for it, but the point is, stuff like a thin touch-screen cmptr/phone is nothing new. (old, like w/ a B&W LCD)

I'm sure the i-Zealots will wet their pants again when the 'new' 'flagship" iPhone is dangled in front of the choir with this crazy new "cut & paste" technology. Maybe you will pinch to cut, and lobster-claw open to paste. ....that makes it "new" and uniquely apple . . .which makes it better, of course. ;)

Scooter, you're going to have to notch it up a bit to be accepted by the i-church. ;)

I'm not saying the i-Phone is a terrible product. It -is- a good product. ....just not that good. It's just another/different mix of features.

Early adopters of technology, or those folks on the "bleeding edge" always want the latest electronic doodad and don't mind paying extra for it. For the "mainstream folks", the price has to drop until we're willing to buy the technology...

What's all the buzz about then? I guess people are stoopid.

(Apple vs. Microsoft 5-years.)

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Apple past 5 years;

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1189096451.jpg

No, you misunderstood my post. I never wrote that you said the i-Phone was a terrible product. I merely wrote that I am happy with it. I don't really care what other's say. I am happy with the features. I am not saying the i-phone is the best phone in the world...just that I like it. It is definitely not for everyone.

I like iPhone, Macs and my iPods. So what? They are just computers and software, yes? What works for me may not work for you.

I don't spend any time hand wringing about what the Samsung, Nokia or Moto folks are doing just like I am not too concerned what folks that like BMWs and Mercedes are doing. If I did, the problem would not be the other folks and their likes, it would be me! To each his own.

Maybe you should take a deep breath and relax and not get too worked up over what other folks like. Life is too short.

Best,

Kurt

"Buzz" eh?

last 5 days...

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