How Can I tell if Some One Faked My 911 T?
 

All this talk of counterfeiting cars is starting to worry me. How do I know my '72 T is genuine? How do I know it didn't start out as a Gremlin, or a Pinto, or something less valuable? I don't want to have to pop the windshield out to verify its authenticity (it rains a lot here), so what are some obvious things to look for? Thanks in advance; any help will be greatly appreciated. And before it even starts, keep your smart-ass replies to yourselves. I'm serious about this and need your help. I hate to think I was taken by some unscrupulous con-man.

Does it have four tires, excluding the spare?

i get jokes.......


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It's probably really an RS.

Best,

Kurt :)

Jeff, it probably DID start out as an RS, then the plates changed over to a Covin re-body.;)

Sorry man, it's worthless. I'll take it off your hands for a grand. :p

Because of the MFI?

I'm sure you can get it back to it's VW bugness ... if you want originality.

Not funny. I parked my SC in the sun one day (guys - never do this, not a good idea) and it turned out to be a fake. I took it to my mechanic to have it's authenticity checked and it turned out to be made from ice cream.

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Will give you $2,000 for it...

A grand sounds fair, but maybe offer him some terms.

I'm with Jeff, I'd much rather deal with con-men that have scruples.
Jim

911 T? Doesn't sound like a real 911 to me but more like some made up designation by the dealer. Does is have a Landau roof package with lights on the C-pillars?

Easy to tell, get under it. If it does not have the "T"urbo in it its a fake 911T :D

I'll help ease the pain and offer you $3000.......

This is a real 1972 911T

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Jeff,

Unlike the guys on this site, I'm very much a beginner on the learning curve, but I'll try to help you out here... To begin with, it is essentially impossible to "fake" a 911T beginning with anything other than a 911 or 912... not a pinto, gremlin, a kit car etc.

The T models were far more common than the S or lofty RS models. If someone were planning to do a dirty deed, they would start with a T model and make it into an S or RS. Please do not take this as an insult, it's not meant that way, I'd LOVE TO own a 72 911 T!!! Fact remains (reference Red Book) that there were some 7,000 T's, about 2000 E's and a little under 2000 S's. Based just on that, it would behoof the criminally minded to start with a less expensive T and "build up" to a more expensive model.

The side-mounted oil tank can be faked, but it requires a good body man to hide the deed. The oil tank is unique to that year only and is $$$. In 1972, the US "T" has MFI, an expensive proposition to procure outright to "fake" a car. The T was 140 hp, the E was 165 and the S was 190 (reference Red Book).

The 5th digit of your serial # for a 911T should be a 1 (with MFI) or a 5 with carbs - non-US car again, reference Red Book - love that thing. I believe 911's, like pretty much all cars out there, have a public and at least one hidden VIN. The public VIN is the visible one - I believe windshield on a 72, I don't recall off-hand where the hidden one is at.

That said, Jeff, enjoy one of Porsche's most collectable and appreciating cars, a longhood MFI 911.

angela

Thanks, Angela. You seem to be the only one taking me seriously about this. I appreciate the help and kind words.

I brought the car down to the Kirkland Concours d'Elegance today and put it in with the rest of the Porsches. I was hoping the knowledgeable, experienced judges present at such an event would be able to put my mind at ease. They pretty much all agreed it must be an authentic '72 "T", and they didn't even have to look for the secret VIN. Mine's the blue one with the Pegasus on the fender:

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That's no "T".

You've been had, I think.

you got termites in your front bumper?

Hey Jeff, why do you have two gas caps? I see the one in the front, buy why have one in the back? By the way, nice Porch!

I've seen it run.......I say cash in your chips and sell it as a Pinto!!!!!!!!!!