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Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water

The article speaks for itself.
I have a wait-and-see attitude about it, but the potential is amazing.
I mean, just think of the kinds of weapons the military industrial complex could make with this information!


Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water

The Associated Press
Monday, September 10, 2007; 5:35 PM

ERIE, Pa. -- An Erie cancer researcher has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.

The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.

Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen _ which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit _ would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."



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repost but still interesting
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I wonder just how much energy it would take?
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Why would radio waves (mm to km in length) effect a bond that is in micrometers?

The "S" microwave band is commonly used in microwave ovens because the water molecule will resonate in that frequency.

another case of "I seriously doubt it"
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It's exciting, but I'm also sort of waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Anyone remember "cold fusion in a bottle"? Nobel prize my ass.
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From a university engineering thermodynamics course introductory lecture:

"The world is divided into two groups:
the first believes in the impossible;
the second works toward the improbable.

Pay attention and learn so you end up in the second group."
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From Bob Park's Sept. 14, 2007 "What's New":

1. WARNING! TURN OFF THE RADAR BEFORE THE OCEAN IGNITES.
All week long I've been getting URLs, for which I'm grateful, about some guy in Erie, PA who discovered a way to burn salt water. It's an AP story, but the warning signs are all there: Described as a "cancer researcher," the protagonist built an RF generator with the idea of killing cancers by heating metallic nanoparticles injected into the cancer. I guarantee that it's possible to kill cancers with RF, along with the host. Anyway, he's not exactly a cancer researcher, he's a retired TV station engineer who discovered that retirement sucks - but that's been discovered before. He then decided to see if his RF generator would desalinate water, but when he tried the water caught on fire. He needed a scientist. Instead, he found Rustum Roy, an emeritus chemistry professor at Penn State, who called it "the most remarkable discovery in water science in 100 years." That would include "polywater," which Roy fell for 40 years ago. Roy said that RF weakens chemical bonds, releasing hydrogen which burns. It's the Bush "hydrogen initiative" fallacy again (WN 31 Jan 03) . Must I now lecture a chemistry professor on thermodynamics? More energy is needed to free hydrogen than you get by burning it. The story was shunned by major news outlets, except, of course, Fox News, which did point out that Rustum Roy is also "a specialist in holistic medicine and Christian sexuality."
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The story was shunned by major news outlets, except, of course, Fox News, which did point out that Rustum Roy is also "a specialist in holistic medicine and Christian sexuality."
Holistic medicine and Christian sexuality?!

Ok... yeah.

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